Saturday, September 24, 2011

Gunny G: STORY OF A MARINE WHO FOUGHT FOR THE FRENCH! (Sent to me by Ben Frank) � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL) � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL)

Gunny G: STORY OF A MARINE WHO FOUGHT FOR THE FRENCH! (Sent to me by Ben Frank) � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL) � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL):

Gunny G: STORY OF A MARINE WHO FOUGHT FOR THE FRENCH! (Sent to me by Ben Frank) � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL)

September 24, 2011
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Gunny G: STORY OF A MARINE WHO FOUGHT FOR THE FRENCH! (Sent to me by Ben Frank)

March 1, 2011 Gunny G Edit Wednesday, April 23, 2003

STORY OF A MARINE WHO FOUGHT FOR THE FRENCH

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STORY OF A MARINE WHO FOUGHT FOR THE FRENCH!

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Dick, here is the article I wrote about Ortiz. Ben

COLONEL PETER JULIEN ORTIZ, OSS MARINE

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POTUS Usurper Chester Arthur Forced Military To Salute British Flag.

POTUS Usurper Chester Arthur Forced Military To Salute British Flag.:

Back in December, this blog broke the story that former US President Chester Arthur lied – in newspaper interviews with the Brooklyn Eagle – about his parental heritage. These lies covered up the fact that Chester Arthur, at the time of his birth, was a British Subject due to the fact that his father, William Arthur, was not a US citizen at the time Chester was born.

This fact, had it been discovered back when Chester Arthur was running for Vice President, would have been an impediment to his nomination.

As fate would have it, Chester Arthur became President when Garfield was assassinated by a rabid Chester Arthur supporter.

Recently, there has been attempts in the main stream media (Colbert Report and AP propaganda) to normalize the fact that Chester Arthur served as President while also being a closet British subject.....
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BILL MAHER, MICHAEL MOORE BACK TONY BENNETT ON HIS AMERICA ‘CAUSED’ 9/11 COMMENTS

BILL MAHER, MICHAEL MOORE BACK TONY BENNETT ON HIS AMERICA ‘CAUSED’ 9/11 COMMENTS:

Bill Maher and controversial filmmaker Michael Moore defended singer Tony Bennett’s earlier comments this week that America “caused” the Sept. 11 attacks.

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READER RESPONSES: CFP: Obama’s ineligibility: All members of Congress have violated their oath of office

CFP: Obama’s ineligibility:

Reader Responses:

All members of Congress have violated their oath of office: Another self evident truth is that the Constitutional oath has become a mere meaningless formality. It is my opinion that all our politicians are high ranking freemasons who belong to other secret fraternal societies as well where this "world government" plot has been hatched.

Their fraternal oaths bind them to loyalty to their craft and to defend other members without reservation in whatever distress they might be involved in, which supercedes any other loyalty.

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141st Anniversary of Robert E. Lee’s death

141st Anniversary of Robert E. Lee’s death:

Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:14:02 PM by BigReb555

General Lee died at his home at Lexington, Virginia at 9:30 AM on Wednesday, October 12, 1870.

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Over 50 'occupiers' cuffed in Union Sq. chaos

Over 50 'occupiers' cuffed in Union Sq. chaos:

The one-week Wall Street protest took a violent turn today, with a near-riot breaking out between marchers and the police.

The chaos erupted during an afternoon march of about 500 demonstrators to Union Square as part of the “Occupy Wall Street” movement. Cops were seen making arrests, herding protesters onto a bus, and in one case, getting into a fistfight with one of the demonstrators. “Police are going to suppress anything that challenges the status quo,” complained college student Moses Appleton, 24, who made the pilgrimage from Virginia Beach. A police source said protesters had no permit to march, and extra cops were called in to get the crowd under control.

Cops confirmed several arrests but said a final tally wasn't immediately available. Protesters claimed 55 people were arrested. Organizers took to Twitter to give a blow-by-blow account of the mayhem, claiming that cops were pepper-spraying women, with at least five being maced in the face. Protesters, based in Zuccotti Park, first pitched their tents Sept. 17.

As they marched, they chanted “Banks got bailed out — we got sold out!” The two-month occupation, pushed by left-leaning groups such as Adbusters, claims it seeks to “restore democracy in America.” Organizers boasted that 20,000 people would participate, but those numbers have yet to materialize.

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Canada more economically free than the United States but [...] (partial title)

Canada more economically free than the United States but [...] (partial title):

TORONTO, ON — Canada has surpassed the United States for levels of economic freedom, according to a new report released today by the Fraser Institute, Canada’s leading public policy think-tank.

Canada ranks sixth in the world for economic freedom with score of 7.81 while the United States fell to 10th overall with a score of 7.60, according to the Economic Freedom of the World: 2011 Annual Report.

But Canada’s score actually decreased this year from 7.95 in 2010, part of an overall decline in levels of economic freedom around the globe. This year’s report shows that the average economic freedom score worldwide fell to 6.64 in 2009 (the most recent year for which data are available) from 6.67 in 2008.

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"Lost Its Way"? ~ Some Little Known History Regarding The "R" Party! (By: Alan Stang!) (CLICK PIC!)

"Lost Its Way"?

"Lost Its Way"?
Some Little Known History Regarding The "R" Party! (By: Alan Stang!)
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GEORGE WASHINGTON, farewell address, Sep. 19, 1796

GEORGE WASHINGTON, farewell address, Sep. 19, 1796
  If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. 

But let there be no change by usurpation ; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.ï...
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The Beatles Would Support Ron Paul by James E. Miller

The Beatles Would Support Ron Paul by James E. Miller:

As Ron Paul wrote in his newest book Liberty Defined:

"People must understand that we can't use violence to have our own way over others – nor should the agents of our government have that power. Even a majority vote should never be accepted as legitimatizing government's use of violence against the people."

Lennon’s criticism of Chairman Mao and communism in "Revolution," is certainly in line with Ron Paul’s beliefs. Paul has always acted on the side of liberty and decentralizing power, not empowering the state for the sake of achieving his ends. In an interview with Reason magazine:

Paul: "Martin Luther King is one of my heroes because he believed in nonviolence and that's a libertarian principle. Rosa Parks is the same way. Gandhi, I admire. Because they're willing to take on the government, they were willing to take on bad laws."

Ron Paul’s position is one of peace and cooperation. The State, by definition, supersedes voluntary cooperation by establishing itself as a monopoly on coercion and violence. This has grown to include drug prohibition.

Just in the federal prison system alone there are approximately 103,000 people locked up for drug offenses, that’s 50% of the whole federal prison population.....
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AMERICANS: STUCK IN DENIAL STAGE...OR... STUCK IN TERMINAL "ACCEPTANCE" ? (LICK PIC!))

AMERICANS: STUCK IN DENIAL STAGE...OR... STUCK IN TERMINAL "ACCEPTANCE" ?

AMERICANS: STUCK IN DENIAL STAGE...OR... STUCK IN TERMINAL "ACCEPTANCE" ?
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Gunny G: US Constitution Not As It Was Thought To Have Been... (CLICK PIC!)

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The Abraham factor: Defeating the West Via the Womb - the Islamic Invasion

The Abraham factor: Defeating the West Via the Womb - the Islamic Invasion

VJDEO !!!!!

by Chuck Ness

While the citizens of Western civilizations have been preoccupied with their own selfish interests, those of the Islamic world have been busy populating a world their children and grandchildren will control. In America, Canada, and Europe, the citizens have been limiting the number of children in their families. Personally, I believe the reasons they chose to limit the number of their offspring are purely selfish.

Women want to have a career, and that is difficult to do if they are having children every 2 or 3 years. As for the men, they have bought into the idea that they will never be able to make enough money to support more than 1 or 2 children. Then there is the desire to put off having a family until they have made it, but in a world where everyone is trying to keep up with each other, no one really ever makes it. Regardless the excuses given, this behavior has led to the citizens of the West reproducing at a rate of about 1.8 per family, which is not even close to the reproduction rate of immigrants.

I could also go on and on as to the methods women in the West use to limit the number of their children, but this post is not about the methods of birth control used to achieve their goal. No, as you will learn from the video below, this column is about the devastating consequences we must now face because of their decisions.

The result of such selfish decisions by Western civilizations...
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Govt’s Illegal Net Neutrality Internet Takeover to Begin November 20th – But It Can Be Stopped � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL)

Govt’s Illegal Net Neutrality Internet Takeover to Begin November 20th –

But It Can Be Stopped � ~

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The Federal Register’s publication of The Federal Communications Commission (FCC)’s illegal Net Neutrality regulations happened this week. That is the final step towards their illegal implementation on November 20th.

The Federal Communications Commission on December 21st illegally voted themselves – in 3-2 Democrat Party-line fashion – Internet Overlords with their unauthorized imposition of the job-killing regulatory nightmare that is Network Neutrality.

The opposition to this unauthorized power grab was nearly universal. The D.C. Circuit Court had already unanimously ruled that the FCC had no authority to do it. The House of Representatives almost immediately passed to overturn the order a Congressional Review Act (CRA) Resolution of Disapproval. Lawsuits to undo the order were readied by (at least) Verizon, Metro PCS and Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli.

This multi-front push to undo this power grab – which everyone and their mother saw coming – froze the FCC in its tracks. So the Commission slow-walked its illegal...............
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A Tea Party Conservative's Defense of Ron Paul...and His Supporters

A Tea Party Conservative's Defense of Ron Paul...and His Supporters:

I want to state at the outset that this essay is not intended to be an endorsement of Ron Paul. While I respect and admire many of his positions and his fidelity to the Constitution, I have strong misgivings about some of his stances on national security. If you could hear the debates between myself and my 20-year-old son, a passionate Ron Paul supporter, you would readily accept the sincerity of my disclaimer.

That said, as the political season has heated up, I've been surprised at the tone of the discourse as it relates to Ron Paul. In fact, I can hardly believe what I'm seeing and hearing from my fellow Tea Partiers and conservatives. My assumption that conservatives are more thoughtful and logical than my emotion-driven liberal friends has taken a bit of a hit....

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Iron Mountain – A Blueprint For Tyranny

Iron Mountain – A Blueprint For Tyranny:

There is a video everyone should watch titled; “Iron Mountain – A Blueprint For Tyranny.”

It discusses a Top Secret study commissioned in 1961 by JFK to determine the problems facing the USA if we moved from a war footing to peace.

The report was finished in 1966 and LBJ ordered that it never be released. One of the participants writing the study decided to release it anyway. It was published by The Dial Press, Inc. 1967, New York, Library of Congress Catalog card Number 67-27553.

The document reports upon bringing the USA and the world under the control of the UN. This blueprint is now being implemented without our knowledge or consent......
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Agenda 21 - What Is It? Apparently is is a plan to reduce the population

Agenda 21 - What Is It? Apparently is is a plan to reduce the population:

Alerting the ping list to some new entries on the Agenda 21 thread beginning at post 451. They are replies to previous posts regarding Chinese compounds being built on US soil.

Thanks to all our participants and lurkers!

Please Freepmail me if you want to be on or off the ping list.''''''''''
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"Flush-Ready" Gubmint:(Ownwer-Operated) The Only Good Gubmint! -A GunnyGism...


FREEDOM "THREATENED" BY GOVERNMENT "IS TYRANNY"!



"Flush-Ready" Gubmint:(Owner-Operated) The Only Good Gubmint!
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Citizen to County Sheriff: Investigate Obama| The Post & Email

Citizen to County Sheriff: Investigate Obama| The Post & Email:

“IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT TO YOU THAT I HAVE WITNESSED A CRIME”

submitted by a reader

In how many ways has Barack Hussein Obama disrespected our Constitution, White House, and national culture?

(Sep. 24, 2011) — The following letter was sent by certified mail, tracking #70093410000060783060, to Sheriff Robert M. Huston of Tazewell County, IL. The writer included the following note to your editor:

Sharon,
Good evening. I pray you are well. Thanks for doing such a good job on keeping the spotlight on the treasonous and traitorous acts going in with our government and the media. I wanted let you know I do pray for you. May the Lord Jesus Christ keep a special hedge of protection about you. I also wanted to let you know that I just sent off two certified mail packages, one went to Sheriff Arpaio, and the to my local county Sheriff.

They received them today. It was the third mailing I sent to Sheriff Robert Huston, plus I’ve called his office I believe three times and left two voice mails and talked to his secretary twice who has told me he’s a big Republican.

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Why Federal Government Trumps the States

Why Federal Government Trumps the States:

It sounds quaint. But giving Washington less control over our affairs, and the states more control, is a bad idea.

Here's why: People move.

Anybody who has relocated from one state to another knows there's a huge hassle factor associated with simply adapting to a different set of rules.

There's also the dubious proposition that states manage their business better than the federal government. It's true that nearly all states are required to balance their budgets, which creates a degree of spending discipline. But that's hardly the same thing as responsible government.

It's worth keeping in mind that the national press corps is centered in Washington and New York, and for all its flaws, there are still hundreds of dogged journalists eager to ferret out wrongdoing and pounce on scandalous behavior.

In state capitals, by contrast, there's far less oversight and a thin press corps that can't possibly keep tabs on every shady deal.

Yeah, there are a lot of problems with the federal government. But 50 different sets of rules isn't one of them.

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The Real DiLorenzo A ‘Southern Partisan’ Interview…. � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL) � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL)

The Real DiLorenzo A ‘Southern Partisan’ Interview…. � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL) � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL):

How did you get on to Lincoln?

I was real interested in the War, and I started thinking about how I could combine my profession with this hobby of mine: the history of the War.

More and more, as I read about Lincoln, I realized he was a tyrant. He was all about money and power.

He was the political water-carrier of the Northern big business interests. Of course, he was a centralizer. I’m sort of a libertarian, although Clyde Wilson would say “Jeffersonian.” Jeffersonian is pretty much the same thing to me.

Most people hear the word “libertarian” and think of people who advocate taking drugs, and that sort of thing. Jeffersonian is more like it.

It really struck me that the War destroyed the Jeffersonian ideal of government. I started writing a few articles about this, and turned it into this book.

What do you think will happen?

It seems to me that the American public has been dumbed down so much by the government schools that they’re just going to go along with this until it either bankrupts us all or we make enough enemies out there that September 11 will seem like child’s play.

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Timothy N. Baldwin -- Comparing Definitions of Freedom: The Source of Our Dilemma, Part 3

Timothy N. Baldwin -- Comparing Definitions of Freedom:

The Source of Our Dilemma, Part 3: As discussed in Part 2 of this article series, the State is the objectivity of individual freedom, in Hegel’s view.

The State’s power is absolute and supreme in all regards. This objectivity of individual freedom is simultaneously the purpose of the State, because as Hegel puts it, the individual’s destiny is fulfilled by being subject to the State.

There is no defined “purpose” of the State as it relates to natural law, constitution, logic, or reason. Rather, to Hegel, the real question is not for what purpose was the State created; but rather, what is the “concept of the State.” It matters not why a State is formed; it only matters that it exist. Once it exists, its purpose is accomplished by whatever actions it executes. The State’s purpose and power are thus coterminous.

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“Here’s What it Will Take” – Part 2| The Post & Email

“Here’s What it Will Take” – Part 2| The Post & Email:

AMERICANS MUST BE WILLING TO FACE THE TRUTH

by One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet

The Social Security Administration has refused to release information regarding the social security number Obama is using

(Sep. 24, 2011) — For some unknown reason, some people, well, a lot of people, seem to have become allergic to facts. Now, we all know the saying

There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way: we’ll do it the Army way.” That, ladies and gentlemen, is a fact, an indisputable truth with no chance of stray ambiguities getting in the way of any possible misunderstandings. Fact.

We’re surrounded by facts, and just because we don’t like a particular fact doesn’t mean that fact can be ignored, overlooked, or forgotten. Facts have a nasty habit of coming back to bite people. You know what I’m talking about if any of you ignored that strange noise from under the hood of your car.

There are facts about the person masquerading as the president of the United States.....
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Prison Planet.com � Where Is Activist Post?

Prison Planet.com �

Where Is Activist Post?:

It appears that one of my newest favorite websites, Activist Post (www.activistpost.com) has been taken down by its host, Blogger.com.

Activist Post posts original articles and articles from other websites that highlight the news items of what various government agencies and the military are up to, and investigative reporting on the latest injustices, corruption and crimes, that we don’t hear about from cowards government lapdogs gutless weasels mainstream news sources.

I am suspicious of this, especially given that Blogger.com is owned by Google.

And we know about the cozy relationship between Google and the Obama Administration.

This’s very suspicious.

TPTB do not like their corruption and crimes being exposed, and they have been very happy lately with the complicity and cover-ups of the mainstream media, the subservient, obedient stenographers of the so-called “free press.”

It would not surprise me that Blogger shut down Activist Post for political reasons, not particularly from the web people and managers of Blogger.com, but from pressure from TPTB.

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Market Havoc & Denver Live Drills: Bob Chapman Reports � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL)

Market Havoc & Denver Live Drills:

Bob Chapman Reports � ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984 ~ (BLOG & EMAIL):

Looting the 401k’s has started, the government wants your taxes and retirement, Greece awaits default, and Pandora’s box will open, Europe financially upside down, NYC legacy banks could lose billions, no COLA increase for retirees.

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Is The U.S. Government Stockpiling Food In Anticipation Of A Major Economic Crisis?

Prison Planet.com � Is The U.S. Government Stockpiling Food In Anticipation Of A Major Economic Crisis?:

Is the U.S. government stockpiling huge amounts of food and supplies in anticipation that something bad is about to happen? Is something about to cause a major economic crisis that will require large quantities of emergency food? For a while, I have been hearing things about the government storing food through the grapevine and I have not been sure what to think about those rumors. Well, today I received a phone call that blew me away.

I debated for quite a while before I decided whether or not to share this information with you all. Normally I do not like to talk about anything unless I am able to prove it by pointing to an article in the mainstream media.

But the source of the information that I am about to share with you is rock solid. I cannot reveal his name, so you will just have to trust me on that.

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Republicans say education department should go

Republicans say education department should go:

ORLANDO, Fla. — The Republican presidential contenders say vast parts of the Department of Education would be on the chopping block — if not completely shut down.

The GOP candidates on Thursday universally panned the education department as they met for a debate. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota says she would push the repeal of federal education laws and personally go to the department's headquarters, turn out the lights, lock the door.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry says the Education Department is too aggressive and criticized former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for supporting it. Romney says Perry has his facts wrong yet again.

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Romney Has Shovel-ready Rhetoric for Schools


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All politicians (R & Ds) should be seen as “flush-ready” at all times.

We spend too much time and thought on poly-tiks and their operators. Remember Cong David Crockett’s quote on poly-tiks.

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Former Staff Sergeant Daryn Moran Challenges Local Officials to Take Action on Obama’s Alleged Forged Birth Certificate| The Post & Email


“WE ARE NOT A FREE PEOPLE”

September 23, 2011

Image released on April 27, 2011 by the White House as a certified copy of his original birth certificate

To Whom It May Concern:

This 14 minute recent video will show clearly the flyer for the Arrest of B. Obama and Reward sought to be raised of $100,000.

The Air Force, the new military, and the illegally sitting President think they got rid of me when I was discharged from the military under lies and ruse by a Muslim superior officer and the new military.

Those who think this is all about hating other people couldn’t be farther from the truth; however, class warfare is the new modus operandi in the new socialist Amerikan society. We are not a free people.

I lost my job just like millions of other Americans, though not for all the same reasons.....
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Republicans Complicit in Violation of U.S. Constitution| The Post & Email

Republicans Complicit in Violation of U.S. Constitution| The Post & Email:

“NO GREATER PRIORITY”

by Lynn Stuter, �2011

Will the RNC take any action against a usurper to the presidency?

(Sep. 23, 2011) — Like many of you, I recently received a “census” survey from the Republican National Committee. I learned, a long time ago, that the answers to surveys were found in the wording of the questions. In other words, survey participants are led to the wanted answer by the wording of the questions.

The survey was accompanied, of course, by the requisite request for money.

At first I was going to toss the whole thing. The RNC doesn’t really want to know what the American people think, ergo the survey set up to elicit the wanted responses, just the check enclosed – thank you very much.

Then I decided that since they had given me the opportunity to communicate with them, via a return postage-paid envelope, why should I miss the opportunity to tell them what I really think.

Thus, I wrote and sent the following letter to the RNC –.....
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Rep. Joe Walsh: Media protect Obama because he is black, liberal

Rep. Joe Walsh: Media protect Obama because he is black, liberal:

Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) said the media protect President Obama and will work to get him reelected because he is black.

“This guy pushed every one of the media’s buttons,” Walsh said in an interview with the Media Research Center. “He was liberal, he was different, he was new, he was black. Oh my God, it was the potpourri of everything.”

Walsh was responding to a question from Media Research Center President Brent Bozell about the “race warfare games” of the Obama administration.

“They are so vested in our first black president not being a failure that it’s going to be amazing to watch the lengths they go to to protect him,” Walsh said. “They, I believe, will spout this racist line if some of their colleagues up here aren’t doing it aggressively enough. There is going to be a real desperation.”.....
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