There has been a rash of news articles lately where ex-Marines or Soldiers present at the scene during shootings, robberies, etc. have taken out the perpetrator. Usually the article, in the case of Marines, refers to the Marine as an "ex-Marine,"
Where does this term "ex-Marine come from? Well, I personally and clearly recall that it was in vogue just after WW II and long after. When someone was referred to as an ex-Marine, it was with pride and admiration of his having been a U.S. Marine! The old saying, "Once A Marine, Always A Marine" went hand-in-hand, and there was no contradiction in terms. Although the term has apparently gone out of use within the active duty establishment, it continues to be used today in the media, etc.
Nowadays, in cases where the Marine is a non-active duty Marine, and called an ex-Marine,. the hue and cry soon goes up by present day Marines that "there are no ex-Marines," and that the individual should be referred to, usually, as a "former" Marine. There are exceptions to this too, where the use of the word former is also found unacceptable by some present day Marines. And, the "Once A Marine..."saying itself is now even used as evidence that there are no ex-Marines.
And so, if correct, just where does authority/reason for not using the old term any longer come from? In any case, there is no directive that forbids the use of the term, just personal opinion alone being the foundation of this brouhaha. Monkey-see, monkey-do--somebody starts it, and the herd picks up the beat and marches on.
I am here to tell you that all this "no ex-Marines" nonsense is just plain bullshit!
During my own active duty as a Marine--1952-1972--I served with numerous pre--WW II, WW II, and Korean War Marines who routinely and proudly referred to discharged Marines, etc. as ex-Marines. The ex-Marine label, back in those days, bore no negative connotation. Why would it, both ex and former mean practically the same thing.
Myself, I regard The Old Corps as those years between the wars, as outlined in BGen Robert H. Williams's book, The Old Corps. I may not be Old Corps, but at least I rubbed elbows w/many of them when I was a PFC and I did duty w/many of them who were still then on active duty.
Not sure exactly when and where things changed regarding this terminology, my guess is sometime subsequent to the early 1970s. Now, however, things have gone even further in that boot Marines apparently now regard the term "ex-Marine" as a derogatory term they assign to Marines they judge as unworthy of the title Marine; Sgt Lee Oswald and Col John Murtha come immediately to mind as examples of this, according to many of the online messageboards, letters to editors, etc.. Both Marines (Oswald and Mutha), by the way, were/are honorably separated and convicted of no crime, so far as I know.
Just why Marines now believe they have the right to judge who is and is not worthy of the title Marine is unclear. The title itself is mentioned in The Marines' Hymn, and is "claimed" by each Marine-- there is no formal appointment/certificate awarded that can be revoked, as one might believe from listening to some of these Johnny-come-lately malcontents.
Another verse in The Marines' Hymn mentions Heavens scenes, where the streets are guraded by the United States Marines. Sure enough, many Marines now refer to departed Marines as having received their final orders to guard...The Gates of Heaven. Apparently, now, they have even transplaced Saint Peter of his post at The Gate! Unthinkable in The Old Corps!
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." --Marcus Tullius Cicero 42B.C.
The title of this column is a caption from a recent CNN poll news item which contained some extraordinary comments from poltroons like Jon Kyl of Arizona, a counterfeit U.S. Senator who sold out the people of Arizona and these united states of America with his solid support of lawlessness and the recently defeated amnesty bill. Kyl is quoted in the aforementioned: "It is a sad commentary in America today that many Americans have lost faith in their government," Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Arizona, said. He added, "Americans don't believe that their government is representing them, is acting on their behalf. The polls show it."
And, whose fault is that Kyl? This news item says it's come down to the people vs the government: "It was a bipartisan bill, supported by President Bush and by most Democrats in Congress. Why didn't it pass? Because the people didn't like it." That's right, the American people by a margin of some 68-72% were demanding its defeat. If ever there was a reason for one state to take up a challenge of the fraudulent ratification of the Seventeenth Amendment, it is Arizona. Unless and until the states finally decide they want back their rightful and equal power, the federal machine will continue stomping on them in pursuit of dissolving America and absorbing US into one region of world government with Mexico and Canada. Back in April 2004, Zell Miller [D-GA], a former counterfeit U.S. Senator recommended rescinding the Seventeenth Amendment. You can't rescind a law that does not exist and the Seventeenth Amendment absolutely, clearly and without question was never ratified by the states of the Union.
The warnings have been placed right in front of our faces regarding how the shadow government intends to deal with we the people taking back our government:
"1987: Then U.S. Attorney General William French Smith blew the whistle on a fairly low ranking Marine officer by the name of Oliver North. According to Smith, Lt. Col. Oliver North directly helped draft a plan in 1984 to impose martial law in the United States in the event of an emergency. This secret plan would suspend the U.S. Constitution and turn over control of the government to the little known agency at that time: FEMA. This plan would appoint military commanders to run state and local governments. Implementation of this plan would have been triggered by violent and wise spread internal dissent, disagreement with government policy or national opposition to any U.S. military invasion abroad. Essentially, it amounted to a complete and total suspension of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
"Investigators who uncovered this plan believe that between 1983 - 1986, North's office was the 'central command center' for this informal secret structure which involved more than the illegal sale of arms to Iran and illegal funding of the underground war in Nicaragua under President Ronald Reagan. "Lifers" in the military were shocked, saying at the time that no Lt. Colonel is ever given the kind of power North was apparently given within this secret structure. So great was his authority, he could have the orbits of sophisticated satellites altered to follow Soviet ships around the world or launch high-flying spy aircraft on secret missions. Some even compared this whole operation as eerily similar to the one portrayed in the movie, Clear and Present Danger, starring Harrison Ford (1994).
"North wasn't alone in this secret structure. Others included Reagan's closest advisers: U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, CIA Director William Casey and National Security Adviser William Clark. Congressional investigators at the time were shocked by how far along this secret structure and planning had progressed. Arthur Liman, who was the chief counsel of the Senate's Iran-Contra committee stated in a memo that Oliver North was at the center of what he called a "secret government within a government." Prior to those hearings, Liman wrote that a policy decision made at the highest levels during the Iran Contra scandal "...reveals the whole secret government within a government, operated from the Executive Office Building by a lieutenant colonel with its own army, air force, diplomatic agents, intelligence operatives and appropriations capacity."
And: "The next real war we fight is likely to be on American soil. Our civilian-military face-off"
"One startling quote in this article is from Admiral Stanley Arthur, Commander of U.S. naval forces during the Gulf War, where he says, "Today the armed forces are no longer representative of the people they serve. More and more, enlisted as well as officers are beginning to feel they are special, better than the society they serve."
"When you turn to page two of this story, the headlines read, "Bill of Rights no obstacle for the Corps." Another disturbing quote jumps out at you, "Because of the rising potential for civil disobedience within the inner cities it is 'inevitable' the U.S. military will be employed more often within American borders." Timothy Reeves, The U.S. Marine Corps and Domestic Peacekeeping, a paper written at the Marine Command and Staff Colleges. Why the concern that there is a potential for civil disobedience by Americans? Where did this come from? I can make an educated guess based on my 14 years of research. In case no one has noticed, the bulk of our population is being forced into these big inner cities whose infrastructures are unable to sustain such masses.
"Further into this shocking story: "...Major Reeves notes, when faced with violating doctrine or violating the law, some Marines chose the latter course and detained suspects and conducted warrantless searches. Indeed, with characteristic Marine Corps bluntness, the major states that, "in interviews with Marine officers involved in domestic peacekeeping missions with officers responsible for articulating the Marine Corps' policy on domestic peacekeeping, it became apparent to the author that Marines took whatever action was necessary. At times, these actions required Marines to violate U.S. law.
"Similarly, Marine Capt. Guy Miner reported in the Gazette that Marine intelligence units were initially worried by the need to collect intelligence on U.S. citizens, which would violate a 1981 Executive Order, but that "this inhibition was quickly overcome...." And to chill you even further, "To enable the Marines to execute these new domestic missions in the same way that they do abroad, Major Reeves calls for major alternations in U.S. laws. "Experience from the Los Angeles riots," he warns, "demonstrated the need to grant U.S. Marine forces the legal right to detain vehicles and suspects, conduct arrests, searches and seizures in order to accomplish the peacekeeping mission." Now, do national IDs and driver's licenses take on a new meaning?" Click here to view the actual newspaper. Anyone paying attention to the paramilitarization of local police in this country and the destruction of Habeas Corpus can see this 1997 revelation wasn't just some exercise in word smiting.
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From one of my columns, January 17, 2004 one can see the plan to ram world communism down our throats:
"Take a good look at this map published in the Denver Post, August 30, 1992, a mere four months before Bush, Sr. signed the unconstitutional NAFTA treaty into law December 17, 1992. This map is not some academic exercise. This IS what's on the horizon for US if the people of this nation don't mobilize. What you're seeing with this latest, grotesque proposal by Bush, Jr., has everything to do with building a new world order (global governance), redistributing the wealth of our nation into the hands of illegals and riffraff from all over the world." I published that information about this map in one of my old newsletters back in 1995 trying to warn Americans.
The people v the people
Not only do the American people see the complete and total failure of the Democrat controlled Congress and the real agenda of Bush and his minions, they are also coming to understand the big picture: world wide communist domination. Unfortunately, due to the corrosive, toxic messages out there brain washing Americans and the deliberate dumbing down of children in the government's indoctrination centers they call schools, we the people are also being pitting against one another in a massive ideological battle. Let me give you two examples, the first is a column by a Carolyn Baker, where she states:
"Franklin Roosevelt's stellar accomplishment in the engineering of New Deal policies was the emphasis on "purchasing power" for average Americans...The author goes on to point out the "feminization" of American society during the Great Depression, noting that "The self-centered, aggressive, competitive 'male' ethic of the 1920s was discredited. Men who lost their jobs became dependent in ways that women had been thought to be." Yet it was not only in loss of jobs that men became more "feminized."
"Whenever any individuals, male or female, join to create community in a spirit of cooperation, they are "feminizing", for the feminine principle is above all, relational—a concept inherent in the traditions of many indigenous peoples. It is this kind of joining that characterized the Great Depression era and to which we must aspire as we build economic, emotional, and spiritual lifeboats for the daunting journey ahead."
What drivel. This woman is promoting the communitarian doctrine - communism. Has she never read history? FDR's New Deal - a "stellar accomplishment" was focused around "purchasing power" for Americans? How about the opinion of people who were actually there at the time? "The New Deal will bring the Communist Party within striking distance of overthrow of the American form of government..." Arthur Henning, Chicago Tribune. "This may be the last presidential election America will have. The New Deal is to America what the early phase of Nazism was to Germany..." Mark Sullivan, Buffalo Evening News. The "feminine principle" is above all? God save us from these females. What she really needs to do is read Nancy Levant's superb columns on the rot of feminism. Better yet, Baker needs to read Nancy's book, The Cultural Devastation of American Women.
Example: A recent column by a woman named Caroline Arnold calling for Americans to: "...declare our independence from "the works of death, desolation, and tyranny," and from "the circumstances of cruelty and perfidy" that led to them."
And how does Ms. Arnold believe this should be done? By restoring democracy and getting rid of handguns. That's right, disarm the American people. That will surely bring us independence and freedom from tyranny! Apparently Ms. Arnold has never read a single word by Patrick Henry, has zero understanding of how gun control is nothing more than people control and she clearly ignores the fact that you cannot have freedom and liberty without an armed population. It's for certain that Ms. Arnold has ZERO understanding of the Second Amendment. She also doesn't even know our legal form of government; we are not a democracy. Each state of the Union is guaranteed a republican form of government, not a democracy. It is these types of dangerous ideas that are pitting Americans against each other: those of us who understand and stand for the Constitution and those who pump out nonsense and toxic waste. One can only hope that Americans who are genuinely concerned about the downfall of this republic don't fall for the propaganda above and seek the truth through historical documentation.
We the people had a huge victory last week in defeating the formidable forces arrayed against us for passage of the grotesque amnesty bill, but the evil doers will be back, make no mistake about it. We must continue to target Congress in between their vacations, demand enforcement of existing immigration laws and go after employers who hire illegals. Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano finally found her guts and signed the strongest legislation against employers hiring illegal aliens in the nation. About time, lady.
We must also demand passage of House Concurrent Resolution 40 (H.C.R. 40) to stop the North American Union. Demand Congress get rid of the so-called Patriot Act, the dangerous John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, the Military Commissions Act of 2006, and National Security Presidential Directive No. 51. We must demand this police state being erected is torn down. As Dr. Edwin Vieira so articulately writes in his scholarly columns, we MUST get one state to reconstitute the militias under the authority of the state legislatures.
It goes without saying that Congress - unless Ron Paul gets elected - will never touch getting rid of the FED, the IRS and the withholding scam. However, the states themselves can and must adopt a sound money bill; see link below. We must continue to go for the jugular, expose the players and be relentless until we drive these America haters out of our political arena and control of our state and federal governments. We must continue demanding the state legislatures get rid of ALL electronic ballot machines and return to paper ballots, hand counted in the precincts in front of the general public or we will NEVER get rid of these traitors who have we the people by the throat - and that includes the mayors in this country selling US out.
Our fight is a noble one and if freedom and independence really mean anything, we the people must stay focused and strong. We the people are on the move and we must not falter. This is our government and we are the masters.
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Considering the present search on Iwo Jima for the remains of Sgt Genaust, etc., this will serve as an update to "The Man We Left Behind" (above).
My thanks, Well Done!, and a hearty Semper Fidelis to both Mr. Clynes and Mr. Bolus, without whom the events we are now witnessing regarding the Bill Genaust story likely would not have occurred. Dick Gaines ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In 1999 I wrote a short article about Sgt. Bill Genaust for a Marine Corps website called "Gunny G's Globe and Anchor". It's sponsored by Dick Gaines, then of Rochester, NY, a retired Marine . His blog is read by millions of Marines all over the world. My article was called, "The Man we Left Behind."
In the book "Immortal Images" by Tedd Thomey, I learned that Genaust had shot the historic motion picture footage of the flag raising on Mt. Suribacci, alongside AP photographer Joe Rosenthal, and had never received due recognition for his work from the USMC. In 1945 there was no television, so people got their news from the newsreels in their local theaters. This is where I first saw the famous flag raising, shot on 16mm color film.
Genaust had been recommended for the Navy Cross by his commanding officer, Lt. Col. Donald Dickson for his earlier actions on Saipan, but had never received it. It had been reduced to Bronze Star, by some rear echelon general back in Quantico who had never heard a shot fired in anger. Col. Dickson later went on to become the editor of Marine Magazine and Leatherneck.
When I read Thomey's book, I recalled videotaping a gun battle on Babcock St. in Providence in 1984, for which I won the NPPA national spot news award. But this paled in comparison to what Sgt. Bill Genaust had to face every day of his life in the Pacific theater.
My typical mornings were spent in city hall, capturing the wit and wisdom of Buddy Cianci's weekly press conferences. I was determined to do what I could to get Bill Genaust his well deserved recognition and hopefully have his remains returned to his homeland. I personally would like to see him laid to rest next to the famous Flag Raising statue in Arlington National Cemetery, which was inspired by his 16mm film.
I had received a pledge of support from Senator John Chafee, who himself had fought on Guadacanal as a young Marine. I had often filmed him as governor, secretary of the Navy in Wasington and later as senator. One morning while getting background materiel from the Newport war college library, I learned from the librarian that Chafee had just died. That pretty much stalled the process, as I had been stonewalled by the brass hats at Quantico.
Bob Bolus of Scranton Pa. read my article on "Gunny G's Globe and Anchor" and contacted me. He was actually an army veteran, but was inspired by Genaust's story. He pledged to bring Bill Genaust back, if he had to go to Iwo Jima and do it himself. And that's exactly what he did.
Bob, owner of a salvage company, spent thousands of dollars to travel to Iwo Jima. He located the hill where Bill Genaust was killed, and believes that he located the location of the cave Bill had entered to save another Marine. Genaust was shot by the Japanese inside that cave, and the opening was hit with a flame thrower and sealed.
The expedition presently working on Iwo Jima Island is the direct result of Bob Bolus's lobbying efforts. He also has pledges of support a US Senator to get the Navy Cross awarded posthumously. A niece of Genaust living in Minn. has been asked for a DNA sample to match with any remains they may find.
While working to have Genaust receive his Navy Cross, I learned that the original cast for the Iwo Jima Flag Raising statue was lying abandoned and forgotten in the Fall River State pier warehouse, getting busted up by the longshoremen's fork lifts.
Mrs. Butler, director of the warehouse asked me to help her draw attention to its plight. I contacted Bob Kerr, who lives in Fall River. He wrote a column about it and ran some artwork. This lit a fire under the city fathers, who raised sufficient money to have it bronzed and erected along the waterfront.
But that crusade isn't finished. When last I saw the monument, the sign in front of it credited the wrong sculptor. Felix DeWeldon created it, but it erroneously credited the most recent artisan who assembled it, as the sculptor. I hope by this writing, it has been credited properly.
Frank Clynes 65 Pine Street Swansea, Ma. 02777 508-673-2810 "When it happens, it's News to us." (WPRI-12's unofficial motto.)
Bob Bolus 570-346-7659 1531 Birch Street Scranton, Pa. 1850
Tedd Thomey 562-420-8435 7228 Rose Bay St. Long Beach, Ca. 90808 . Billy Genaust 217-536-6800 14018 E. 1100th Ave Effingham, Ill. 62401 bgenaust@yahoo.com
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286847,00.html Bill Barnes says he was scratching off a losing $2 lottery ticket inside a gas station when he felt a hand slip into his front-left pants pocket, where he had $300 in cash.
He immediately grabbed the person's wrist with his left hand and started throwing punches with his right, landing six or seven blows before a store manager intervened.
"I guess he thought I was an easy mark," Barnes, 72, told The Grand Rapids Press for a story Tuesday.
He's anything but an easy mark: Barnes served in the Marines, was an accomplished Golden Gloves boxer and retired after 20 years as an iron worker.
Jesse Daniel Rae, the 27-year-old Newaygo County man accused of trying to pick Barnes' pocket, was arraigned Monday in Rockford District Court on one count of unarmed robbery, a 15-year felony.
Barnes said he had just withdrawn the money from a bank machine and put it in the pocket of his shorts before driving to the Marathon service station and Next Door Food Store in Comstock park, a Grand Rapids suburb.
He remembers noticing a patron acting suspiciously, asking the price of different brands of cigarettes and other items. While turned away, Barnes felt the hand in his pocket, so he took action.
"I guess I acted on instinct," he said.
Kent County sheriff's deputies said the store manager quickly came around the counter. The three of them struggled through the front door, where two witnesses said the manager slammed Rae to the ground and held him there.
"There was blood everywhere," said another manager on duty, Abby Ostrom, 25.
Barnes was a regional runner-up in Golden Gloves competition in the novice and open divisions before enlisting in the Marines in 1956.
He lived most of his adult life in Comstock Park with his wife, Patricia, before recently moving to Ottawa County. The couple have three children.
After retiring as an iron worker, he now works part-time as a starter at a golf course.
Barnes said he'd probably do the same thing again under the same circumstances, if for no other reason than what he would face back home.
"I wouldn't want my wife to give me hell for lettin' that guy get my money," he said with a smile.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286847,00.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Response: Dick Gaines/aka: GyG ~~~~~
Who sez there are NO EX-MARINES! THE HELL THERE AIN'T NO EX-MARINES! I SERVED W/MANY PRE-WWII, WWII, KOREAN WAR, ETC. MARINES WHO PROUDLY REFER TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AS "EX-MARINES"!!!!!
BIGMOUTH BOOT JARHEADS CLAIMING OTHERWISE DON'T MEAN ****!
Semper Fidelis GyG
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"Remembering Marines, Long Forgotten, But Who Marines of Any Era Should Know..." ~~~~~
The Real 6 June By: Michael Miller
Today is 6 June 1918. June 6 is thought of as D-Day in Normandy, but in 1918, it meant the first attacks thought the Wheat fields at Belleau Wood. For us in the Archives, this is the real significance of 6 June.
With over 1100 casualties, it was the bloodiest day in Marine Corps history until Tarawa in 1943. At least 94 Marines revived the Navy Cross/DSC, most posthumously. All on 6 June 1918.
This date was so significant that 6 June and 10 Nov were the two choices for the Marine Corps birthday celebration by CMC Lejeune. 6 June lost, and the rest is history.
However, we should remember some of these Marines, long forgotten, but who Marines of any era should know. "Pop" Hunter is certainly one of those. The following is from a manuscript I am working on that one day, 170 pages and still going. Thanks mike
First Sergeant Daniel A."Pop" Hunter, Navy Cross 6 June 1918 and Killed in Action 6 June 1918
Hunter was an old time Marine who enlisted in the Army during the Spanish American War in 1898. After serving four enlistments with the regulars and leaving the United States service as a private, Hunter joined the Marine Corps in 1910 at the same rank. Multiple decorative tattoos must have earned him a certain reputation within the barracks and initially, the life of a Marine appealed to Hunter. He became a corporal within two months. While on deployment, the young man from Baltimore was in his element. As for many young Marines, however, stateside duty in New Orleans proved too much a temptation and Hunter became involved in a long string of alcohol related offenses which resulted in four rounds of punishment and four separate court-martial's in one year. Of course, his corporal's stripes were lost due to his time spent off duty drinking in the "dives" of New Orleans.
Hunter was transferred to the Marine Detachment, Naval Prison Portsmouth, New Hampshire. The duty of guarding prisoners instead of being guarded matured Hunter in many ways and he became an outstanding Marine. After duty in Cuba, Mexico, and the Dominican Republic, Hunter rose steadily in rank to become the First Sergeant of the Marine detachment aboard the battleship USS Alabama in 1917. When the detachment was taken ashore and made into the 67th Company that same year, Hunter made the transition as well.
On 6 June 1918, First Lieutenant Orlando C. Crowther commanded the 67th Company facing Hill 142. He depended on First Sergeant Daniel A."Pop" Hunter to get the young Marines across the wheat fields. At 0350 with the first sign of light on the horizon, First Sergeant Daniel A. "Pop" Hunter calmly stepped into the wheat field, looked left and right, making certain that the line of his 67th Company was absolutely dressed. Satisfied, the First Sergeant blew his whistle to announce the attack, and then "His cane swung overhead and forward, pointing toward the first objective." The Marines of the 67th Company moved swiftly forward, running toward the Germans in the far tree line.
The first Marine in the 67th Company went down into the wheat, struck by machine gun bullets. Another Marine yelled over to "Pop" Hunter, calling out the man was hurt. The tough First Sergeant replied with the wisdom of many years of Marine Corps service, "C'mon goddammit! He ain't the last man who's gonna be hit today."
Once on the brow of Hill 142, Lieutenant Jonas Platt of the 49th Company pulled together the remnants of his platoon and any other Marine he could find in the trees. He surprisingly discovered First Sergeant Hunter with twenty Marines from the 67th Company in his front. Platt questioned Hunter, asking who was his commanding officer. "Me," Hunter replied, "All the rest are deados." The First Sergeant then added, 'We are going over." When Platt saw that the small band of Marines was attacking toward Torcy, he responded, "Why, man, the whole Boche army is over there." Hunter simply shrugged and said, "Well, My tactics are simple: go get them." After arguing for several minutes with Hunter to cancel his attack due to German numbers, Hunter simply stated he would take the ground and reaffirmed his belief in the numbers by saying he would win, "Not if they're not more'n twenty to one!" Platt then extracted a promise from the stubborn First Sergeant that he would remain there with his men until Platt returned with orders from Hamilton. Hunter reluctantly spoke, "I'll promise sir," but Platt noticed every one of these words "dragged from his lips." The Marines behind "Pop" Hunter were also disappointed, "looking about as pleased as a man who has bitten into a green persimmon."
Marine Gunner Henry L. Hulbert and First Sergeant "Pop" Hunter were the only survivors of the senior leadership of the 67th Company. Every other officer and staff noncommissioned officer was killed or wounded. Together, Hulbert and "Pop" Hunter pulled the company line together, moving about the position as if immune from the enemy fire. Hunter inspired the Marines about him to repulse the German attacks, but was wounded three times in the effort. He died sometime in the morning from a gunshot wound to the head. First Sergeant Hunter was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross for his bravery. Despite the confusion of the battle, Hunter's personal effects were recovered and returned to his widow, Mrs. Ida May Hunter. One of Hunters requests was to have his watch returned to his wife, and Major Keller Rockey personally carried the watch until returning the timepiece to Mrs. Hunter in 1919.
Quotes from Elton C. Makin, Suddenly We Didn't Want to Die , (Presidio, 199); and Jonas Platt, "Holding Back the Marines," The Ladies Home Journal , September 1919.
J. Michael Miller Head, Archives and Special Collections Library of the Marine Corps 703-784-4685 millerm@grc.usmcu.edu
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TOKYO (AP) - A U.S. search team on the Japanese island of Iwo Jima is zeroing in on a cave where a Marine combat photographer who filmed the iconic flag-raising 62 years ago is believed to have been killed in battle nine days later, officials told The Associated Press Friday.
The seven-member search team is looking for the remains of Sgt. William H. Genaust, who was killed in action after filming the flag-raising atop Iwo Jima's Mount Suribachi. The team is also searching for other U.S. troops killed in the battle - one of the fiercest and most symbolic of Second World War .
The team is the first from the Joint POW/MIA Accounting office, which is headquartered on Hickam Air Force Base on Hawaii, to conduct a search on Iwo Jima since 1948, when most of the American remains were recovered. The island was occupied by the United States after Japan's 1945 surrender, and returned to Japanese jurisdiction in 1968.
"The team is finding caves that have been cleaned out, and some that have collapsed," JPAC spokesman Lt. Col. Mark Brown told the AP.
Brown said the team is looking for as many American remains as it can find, including those of Genaust.
He said 88,000 U.S. service members are missing from Second World War , including about 250 from the Iwo Jima campaign.
Brown said the search is a preliminary one, and that if a high probability of recovering remains is determined, a full recovery team will be sent in.
"Our motto is 'until they are home,"' Brown said. "'No man left behind' is a promise made to every individual who raises his hand."
Genaust, a combat photographer with the 28th Marines, used a movie camera to film the raising of the flag atop Iwo Jima's Mount Suribachi on Feb. 23, 1945. He stood just feet away from AP photographer Joe Rosenthal, whose photograph of the moment won a Pulitzer Prize and came to symbolize the Pacific War and the struggle of the U.S. forces to capture the tiny island, a turning point in the war with Japan.
Genaust didn't live to see the end of the battle.
Johnnie Webb, a civilian official with JPAC, said Genaust died nine days later when he was hit by machine-gun fire as he was assisting fellow Marines secure a cave.
Iwo Jima was officially taken on March 26, 1945, after 31-day battle that pitted some 100,000 U.S. troops against 21,200 Japanese. All told, 6,821 Americans were killed and nearly 22,000 injured - the highest percentage of casualties in any Pacific battle.
Only 1,033 Japanese survived.
Many of the missing Marines were lost at sea, meaning the chances of recovering their remains are slim. But many also were killed in caves or buried by explosions, and Brown said they are optimistic that the current search for Genaust and other servicemen will prove useful.
"We are looking at several caves," he said. "'We are looking for a number of service members, including Genaust. We have maps dating back to Second World War and even GPS locations. So far, everything seems to be where it should be."
Accounts of Genaust's death vary, but he was believed to have been killed in or near a cave on "Hill 362A."
On March 4, 1945, Marines were securing the cave, and are believed to have asked Genaust to use his movie camera light to illuminate their way. He volunteered to shine the light in the cave himself, and when he did he was killed by enemy fire. The cave was secured after a gunfight, and its entrance sealed.
Genaust was 38 when he died.
"We decided that the only way to determine if his remains were there was to work on the ground," Webb said. "We believe his remains may be in there, along with the remains of the Japanese."
Separately, Japan on Monday returned to using the prewar name for Iwo Jima at the urging of its original inhabitants, who want to reclaim an identity they say has been hijacked by high-profile movies like Clint Eastwood's "Letters from Iwo Jima." The new name, Iwo To, was adopted by the Japanese Geographical Survey Institute in consultation with Japan's coast guard.
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Ronald Reagan's wisdom on the Middle East: LEAVE! OC Register ^ | July 21, 2006 | John Seiler
Posted on 06/17/2007 1:22:37 PM EDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ronald Reagan is America's most beloved president of recent years. We remember how he restored prosperity while ending the Cold War without getting us all nuked....
It's worth looking back on Reagan's policy on involving U.S. troops in the quarrels and hatreds of the Middle East. In 1983, he committed U.S. Marines to Lebanon. On Oct. 23, a terrorist truck bomb blew up the troops' barracks, killing 220 Marines and 21 other troops.
At first, Reagan insisted that he wouldn't cave in to the terrorist threat. Then he realized the best policy was to pull out the troops. Here's how he explained it in his autobiography:
Perhaps we didn't appreciate fully enough the depth of the hatred and the complexity of the problems that made the Middle East such a jungle. Perhaps the idea of a suicide car bomber committing mass murder to gain instant entry to Paradise was so foreign to our own values and consciousness that it did not create in us the concern for the marines' safety that it should have.
In the weeks immediately after the bombing, I believed the last thing that we should do was turn tail and leave. Yet the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there. If there would be some rethinking of policy before our men die, we would be a lot better off. If that policy had changed towards more of a neutral position and neutrality, those 241 marines would be alive today.
Reagan's sensible policy -- "neutral position and neutrality" -- should be followed today.... And troops now in Iraq should be brought home immediately. Almost 2,600 have been killed in Iraq, 10 times the number killed in Lebanon when Reagan decided to leave.
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Party boy Skeet Burns (played by William Haines ) travels to San Diego on the pretext of joining the Marines. Upon arriving at the Marine base, he makes a quick detour to Tijuana for some fun, although he is nearly collared by Sergeant O'Hara (played by Lon Chaney). O'Hara, a seasoned leatherneck, has seen this time and time again. Skeet may have slipped out of O'Hara's clutches for the moment, but "he'll be back - yeah he'll be back."
What is Sergeant O'Hara? Is he some kind of psychic? His prediction of Skeet's return and his subsequent enlistment is right on the money. Not only that, lucky Skeet will become O'Hara's personal responsibility. This new recruit is taken through all the rigors of boot camp, kicking and scheming all the way. O'Hara has a remedy for wiseacres like Skeet, called "driving the General's car." When he asks for a volunteer for this "cushy" task, Skeet naturally pushes his way to the head of the line. His enthusiasm turns to pure torture when he realizes that the General's car is actually a wheelbarrow for hauling loads (and loads) of rocks! He is assigned a keeper, Corporal Madden (played by Eddie Gribbon). Some keeper - he can't even keep the smitten Skeet from playfully "kidnapping" attractive nurse Norma Dale (played by Eleanor Boardman) or keep him out of the brig. To add to Skeet's problems, it just so happens that Sergeant O'Hara has been sweet on this particular nurse for quite some time. Poor Skeet, before he can honestly call himself a Marine he has a long way to go...
Tell It to the Marines is considered to be the tough, yet funny and sentimental, prototype of a military service film. The themes that were calculatedly presented for audiences were patriotism, loyalty, fraternity and the assurance that the military was protecting American interests. Taking these elements and putting them in a script that gave a human face to these ideals went over in a big way with the general public and the military itself. To be sure, this wasn't the only film of its kind released at this time. Other studios were producing their own buddy films with a military backdrop, such as Behind the Front (Famous Players-Lasky, 1926), starring Wallace Beery and Raymond Hatton and What Price Glory (Fox Film Corp, 1926), starring Victor McLaglen and Edmund Lowe. The stars of the two latter films teamed up again and made more of the same, due to popular response. Tell It to the Marines was not followed up by related films starring Chaney and Haines. It did, however, become the most memorable of all the films of this genre and was much beloved in an official capacity by the USMC.
Tell It to the Marines premiered at the Embassy Theater (New York) on December 23, 1926, where it had a successful run for 13 weeks and became M-G-M's second-highest grossing film for that year. A private screening was held in Washington, D.C. and was attended by President Coolidge, Cabinet members and a score of senators. It deservedly received rave reviews:
Motion Picture Magazine, for March 1927, commented, "Lon Chaney's first appearance 'au naturel' for many years and it makes one plead for more."
The Variety review of December 29, 1926, crowed, "Tell It to the Marines is sure-fire box office if there ever was one...It's a special and that goes 100 percent...This picture is full of action, laughs and holds a lot of love interest. In addition, the photography is great. Some shots worthy of an artist's brush."
Harrison's Reports, on January 1, 1927, generously exclaimed, "Excellent. It is, in fact, a better picture than any Mr. Chaney has ever been in. There are laughs and thrills, and in many situations deep emotional appeal. The laughs are caused by the "fresh" conduct of the heroine's young sweetheart and by the treatment he receives at the hands of the hard-boiled marines."
Photoplay in March 1927, fell in the rank and file of positive acknowledgment by stating, "The adventures of the Devil Dogs in China. Grade A entertainment, with Lon Chaney and William Haines adding further glory to their reputations."
The plot line of Tell It to the Marines admittedly spreads itself magnanimously across the globe. The structure reminds one of today's military recruitment commercials, which tend to show a fabulous montage of adventures a recruit can look forward to. They start ordinarily enough with boot camp, and then on to the briny sea for battleship maneuvers. The next stop is a soggy island in the Philippines, complete with rebellious natives. Finally, it's on to a glorious encounter for the Marines in remote Hangchow, China, against a local warlord. Also, the feminine touch is not absent from these remote places. Conveniently, the same nurses from boot camp are assigned to Hangchow. (Pass the ammunition and the nurses.) In considering a career choice with the military, this high-budget recruitment film could certainly put the idea over with a young, healthy American male - Now, are there any volunteers to drive the General's car? Behind the Scenes of Marines
The eight and a half week shooting schedule for Tell It to the Marines, under the direction of George Hill, was kicked off by an impressive ceremony. Almost the entire M-G-M studio personnel was at the base when the USMC band played as the Commandant of the Corp presented studio chief Louis B. Mayer an American flag to be flown at the studio. Lon Chaney was in attendance in his sergeant's uniform with actual Marines and their mascot bulldog, Sgt. Jiggs, who made a cameo playing O'Hara's pooch. In fact, Chaney was made an honorary Marine by the Corps - one of his proudest moments. The battleship USS California was used in the scenes that took place at sea. (Later, the famous ship would fall victim to the Japanese during their attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.)
Much of the film was shot at the Marine base in San Diego with technical assistance from the Marines and from Marine General Smedley Butler, who became a personal friend of Chaney's. In return for their assistance, M-G-M lent a deluxe steam shovel to the Marines to help landscape the base. General Butler's son recalled in 1991 what it was like at the Marine base during the filming, and he remembered Lon Chaney eating dinner at their home. The event was captured in home movies with the lucky boy on screen with the great star.
There is a lot to recommend about Tell It to the Marines. This well-produced film is considered by many to be one of Chaney's finest works. It's about time that it be restored and put on video for the patient fans who have believed in it all along. The best way to get our message across is to - tell it to Time Warner!
Tell It to the Marines (M-G-M, 1926). Cast: Lon Chaney, William Haines, Eleanor Boardman, Eddie Gribbon, Carmel Myers, Warner Oland, Mitchell Lewis, Frank Currier, Maurice E. Kains and Sgt. Jiggs (the USMC's official mascot). Directed by George Hill. Photographed by Ira H. Morgan. B&W. The film runs approximately 94 minutes. Note: to our knowledge, Tell It to the Marines has never been aired on TCM. Be sure to request that this classic be shown! This is a film we would like to see released on video .
Sources: The American Film Institute Catalog Feature Films, 1921-1930; Lon Chaney by Michael F. Blake; and The Film Encyclopedia by Ephraim Katz.
Note: Lon Chaney by Michael F. Blake (Vestal Press,1993) features many photographs taken at San Diego when the film was being shot.
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"SERGEANT MAJOR AT IWAKUNI MCAS GETS OFF EASY AFTER SEVEN-MONTH AFFAIR WITH FIELD-GRADE OFFICER'S WIFE - COURT-MARTIAL GIVES E-9 THIRTY DAYS IN THE BRIG, LOSS OF ONE STRIPE IF FADRIQUE TARAZON ACCEPTS RETIREMENT AFTER 27 YEARS SERVICE WOULD A LANCE CORPORAL OR EVEN A GUNNY HAVE GOTTEN SUCH A SWEET DEAL?"
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Over Memorial Day I had the opportunity to visit Myrtle Beach SC. While heading out, an old gent was walking by and saw the Semper Fi sticker in my truck window. He asked if I was in the Corps, Yes Sir ! Out went the hand with a reply " so was I !" I looked into, what I learned later were 93 year old eyes, and jokingly asked " What were you, a Horse Marine ? " The answer "close a China Marine !" You could have knocked me over with a feather, I was speaking to a "China Marine" who enlisted in the Corps at 15 in 1931 and retired a Lt. Col. in 1967. Ski, as he insisted I call him, invited me for a visit the next day. Three hours after arriving and pouring over photos in his album from his China Service, I became friends with this old Marine. I shook the hand, that shook the hand of Smedley Butler, had Chesty Puller as a friend and called several past commandants by thier first name, calling one a "silly ass" ! After searching around, I learned that a few retired officers of the Corps, had and have, the same thought I had, Ski is a "legend" in his own right and was called a " National Treasure" by one retired Major, who knows him. I learned that Marines, feared Ski and would now want to honor him. The Old China Marine, is retired Lt. Col. Peter Paul Yezerski, USMC Food Services. I have received some documents of Ski, from his family and found he has seen duty starting after Parris Island in China on the USS Tulsa a patrol gunboat, at the time flagship of the China Fleet. Saw duty on land during the Sino Japanese controversy guarding the International Settlement in Shanghi China and ran up the Yangtze River to assist the USS Panay. Saw duty in Nicaragua and then on the Gitmo, Wallis Island, Upolu, Western Samoa, Guadalcanal and into Melbourne. A map on his wall was peppered with red pins spanning the world of places he has been. Contacting the Historical Branch USMC Quantico I plan an Oral interview of Ski for the record, to be saved for research at MCU Research, Quantico. Ski and his family have been busy preparing for my visit pulling out old files and memories from his service in the Corps. Can't wait to see documentation of a Marine Officer some call the Smorgasbord King. My query here is; Is this the last of the "Old" China Marines of the 1930's? Anybody ever heard of him or have any info they would like to share? Hopefully, Ski will be attending the China Marine Assoc. reunion this coming fall, Ski now thought to be the Oldest known China Marine. I plan on staying in close contact with him Thanks Semper Fi ! Jim Donovan http://tinyurl.com/2v2zch -- ************************************ Gunny G's GLOBE and ANCHOR ~Sites*Forums*Blogs~ R.W. "Dick" Gaines GnySgt USMC (Ret.) 1952--(Plt #437, PISC)--'72 "The Original Gunny G!" *************************** Sites... http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/gunnyg/sites3.html Forums... http://www.network54.com/Forum/135069 Blogs... http://gunnyg.blogspot.com/ The GyG Weblog @ N54.com http://www.network54.com/Forum/247172/ GyG's History/Traditions, etc. http://www.network54.com/Forum/220604/ The GyG Mailbag* Archive*Bookmarks @FURL http://www.furl.net/members/gunnyg Want On GyG's E-Mail List? Send/Reply: GunnyG*At*GMail.com ADD In Subject Line... ************************************* NOTE: Latest Posts-/Archive GyG @ FURL... http://www.furl.net/members/gunnyg USMC, History, Unusual/Controversial, Politically Incorrect, News-n-Views, Eye-Opening and Thought-Provoking Articles, etc. ********** RESTORE THE REPUBLIC Semper Fidelis Dick Gaines ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Want On GyG's E-Mail List? Send/Reply: GunnyG@GMail.com ADD In Subject Line.... ~~~~~~~~~~ RESTORE THE REPUBLIC! R.W. "Dick" Gaines (The Original "Gunny G") GnySgt USMC (Ret.) 1952- (Plt #437-PISC)-'72 Sites & Forums For... The Thinking Marine! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GyG's Globe and Anchor! --Sites & Forums GyG's Old Salt Marines Tavern ~Interactive~ GyG's Globe and Anchor Weblog GyG's History/Traditions, etc. The GyG Archive/Bookmarks @FURL ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Add Gunny G's FURL RSS Feed To YOUR Site! ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ USMC, Military, History, Unusual/Controversial, Politically Incorrect, News-n-Views, Eye-Opening and Thought-Provoking Articles, etc.
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The announcement Friday that Gen. Peter Pace would not be returned to the post of chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, initially made my heart sink. Other Marines felt — and feel — the same. I know, because I’ve received their e-mail messages.
To us it’s not so much because of who Pace is as a man and a four-star Marine general, though that certainly has something to do with it. But it’s what he represents to the history of our Corps as the first-ever Marine to lead the JCS.
We Marines are fiercely proud of that history, and for good reason.
Every single one of us who has ever worn the eagle, globe, and anchor is a part of that history. We’re taught that from day-one at boot camp or officer candidate school, and it’s something that creates a lifelong bond between Marines as well as a special appreciation for the accomplishments of our fellow Marines.
For instance, all Marines know that the first American to orbit the earth was Marine Col. John Glenn. The current director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, is a former Marine; as is New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly. When Hollywood needed an actor who could play one of the Army’s toughest, most celebrated battlefield commanders, Gen. George S. Patton Jr.; they picked former Marine George C. Scott for the title role. And if I were to continue, this would not even be a warm up.
So when Pace became chief of the chiefs (In fact, he was the first Marine to become vice chairman.), we Marines were all thinking, “It’s about time†and “What finer man could there be to represent us?â€
“PERFECT PETE†Dubbed “Perfect Pete†by fellow officers, Pace graduated from the Naval Academy in 1967, rising through the ranks from a Marine rifle platoon commander in Vietnam to the highest-ranking American military officer in the world in 2005.
Pace’s not being renominated has nothing to do with his performance as chairman of the JCS. It has everything to do with what he symbolizes (American leadership while fighting a difficult war in Iraq) to the usual salivating suspects on Capitol Hill. And it was clear to Defense Secretary Robert Gates, and surely to President Bush, that Pace’s reconfirmation hearings would have been turned into a congressional circus: With poll-driven politicians focusing less on Pace’s performance and plans for the present and future prosecution of the war, and more on what has gone wrong in Iraq for the purposes of “show†and heaping blame, regardless of whether or not it is deserved, on any symbol of the Bush White House.
Pace is such a symbol. So he’s out. In his place, Gates has tapped Admiral Mike Mullen, also a Naval Academy grad (Class of ’68) and a Navy surface-warfare commander currently serving as Chief of Naval Operations.
Mullen too is a good man, and brave indeed to accept the nomination knowing the scrutiny he’ll have to undergo.
THE INQUISITORS But for men like Pace and Mullen, it’s not really about courage or self. It’s about service to country, and winning this country’s fights no matter where, when, against whom, and how long it might take. They’re cut from completely different cloth than their inquisitors who hope to trip them up and find reasons not to let them do what they best know how to do.
You can be sure, those who question Mullen during his forthcoming confirmation hearings — though most of them know little about the Navy, the Marine Corps, any other branch of service, or what is actually taking place in the backstreets of Iraq or the backcountry of Afghanistan — will look hard for chinks in the armor. They’ll use loaded inaccuracies to describe what is happening in Iraq: Words like “escalation,†“occupation,†“tragedy,†and “failure.â€
Beyond Capitol Hill, some on the Left fear Mullen, suggesting that he would eagerly expand the Iraq war into a much broader Persian Gulf war. Not sure I buy that. Then there are those on the Right like Elaine Donnelly — who I almost always agree with — who would argue that Mullen is “an ardent advocate of ‘diversity’ quotas and other controversial goals for the military.†She makes her case here.
“MARINES DON’T TALK ABOUT FAILURE†My take is that Mullen will almost assuredly be confirmed because he’s well-suited for the job, as Pace has been, as U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus is for his job as commander of U.S. forces in Iraq. You’ll remember, Petraeus was unanimously confirmed by Congress earlier this year, and is currently accomplishing everything his responsibilities demand, and then some: Despite the fact that those accomplishments are publicly distorted by the very men and women who confirmed him.
But that’s okay, because America continues to produce military leaders like Pace, Mullen, and, yes, Petraeus, who will continue to do what they’ve always done.
Earlier this year, Pace told a group of governors at a White House meeting, “I'm a Marine, and Marines don't talk about failure. They talk about victory.â€
Last month, Mullen told a group of sailors at Pearl Harbor: “I honestly believe this is the most dangerous time in my life. The enemy now is basically evil and fundamentally hates everything we are — the democratic principles for which we stand. … This war is going to go on for a long time. It’s a generational war.â€
So it’s not really that Pace is out, and Mullen is in. It’s more like one good Annapolis man will be relieving the watch of another in order to thwart the non-constructive criticism from those who would have us raise the white flag even as Petraeus is on the threshold of taking the high ground in Iraq.
— A former U.S. Marine infantry leader, W. Thomas Smith Jr. writes about military issues and has covered war in the Balkans, on the West Bank, and in Iraq. He is the author of six books, and his articles appear in a variety of publications. National Review Online -
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