Wednesday, March 31, 2004

"MARINES IN REVIEW" --BY DICK GAINES


"Marines In Review" - Radio Show 1940-'50s....
by Dick Gaines

I have written before on my websites referring to the old radio show called "Marines In Review!"

Back in the late '40s and early '50s, it came over the radio on Sunday afternoons, broadcast from Camp Joseph H. Pendleton, Oceanside, California. I remember making it a point, as a young man at that time, to listen to that show each Sunday afternoon whenever I could.

It was a 1/2 hour show, as I recall, and it had news and articles regarding the Marine Corps--there was one regular feature of the show called, "The Old Gunny Sez!" where the old gunny was always consulted as the resident expert on some topic or other of various Marine Corps subjects that always came up.

In 1952, as soon as I turned 17 years old, I joined the Marine Corps. After boot camp at Parris Island, I received orders reading "Report to: Marine Barracks, Camp Joseph H. Pendleton, Oceanside, California."

I reported in August of that year. I was surprised to find, when I went to the #12 area theatre one night (each area at Pendleton then had its own area PX, theatre, etc., in those days) that the 'Marines In Review' radio show was being broadcast/recorded from that theatre's stage prior to the movie that nite, as was done each week.

I watched there such as movie actor John Hodiak, and his wife, Anne Baxter, who had just finished filming the movie, Battle Zone, there at Camp Pendleton, sat in the audience next to me. I also saw Chesty Puller on the same show on another occasion.

I was also surprised to see that "the old gunny" turned out to be a young Pfc or Corporal reading the lines from a script.

I have never seen anything on the Internet, or in books for that matter,regarding that old Marines radio show in all these years.

But just lately, I found some mention of it on the China Marines Band webite, which contains some information, photos, etc. regarding that show.

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CLICK--HERE!!!!!

Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines
GySgt USMC (Ret.)




This message has been edited by Dick Gaines from IP address 209.130.148.5 on Jun 11, 2002 2:39 PM

Posted on Jun 11, 2002, 2:29 PM
from IP address 209.130.148.5

Posted on Dec 9, 2002, 9:12 PM
from IP address 209.130.218.74
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And, today, long after I wrote the above piece on Marines In Review, I received an e-mail from another Marine who not only remembers that old radio show, but was actually a part of it for a time. My thanx, Dennis, for your e-mail to me on this--much appreciated!
Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines
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From: "The Zartmans" Add to Address Book
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:40:12 -0500 (EST)
To: GyG1345@yahoo.com
Subject: Marines in Review


Enjoyed your piece on the radio show "Marines in
Review". In late 1955
I appeared in several of the broadcasts, most
notably the USMC birthday
show where I played two parts in the dramatic
portion of the program. I
was both the young Marine who was shown around
heaven and the gnarled
old salt who was the tour guide. As you know,
the show was broadcast on
sundays but taped before then prior to the
showing of the movie. ABC
sent a director from Los Angeles along with the
networks technical
recording engineer. The rest of those on the
program were all Marines.
At the time I was stationed just down the road at
MP battalion and the
work on "Marines in Review" was just a fun
part-time thing I did. I did
maybe three or four shows and then gave it up for
it was time to get
ready for discharge.
I enjoyed your memories of watching the
performance of "Marines in
Review"

Semper Fidelis
Dennis Zartman
Lilburn, GA.

Posted on Mar 31, 2004, 5:12 PM
from IP address 69.34.2.167
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Sunday, March 21, 2004

PUBLIC RELATIONS KEEPS U.S. FLAG FROM FLYING IN IRAQ


Public relations keeps U.S. flag from flying in Iraq
(Sun, Mar/21/2004)

Gerry White was hopping mad when he called last week. The Warminster resident was upset to learn that U.S. troops serving in Iraq are not permitted to display the American flag.

He considers the practice a "slap in the face" to all Americans.

Like it or not, the no-flag policy has been in effect since the war began a year ago. At the war's outset, coalition headquarters in Kuwait ordered soldiers, airmen and Marines not to display the American flag on vehicles or buildings. It was reported that the order was only loosely followed.

Then in April, the world saw the dramatic images of jubilant Iraqis in Baghdad tearing down a huge statue of Saddam Hussein. The crowd was having trouble toppling the statue of the former dictator, so some U.S. Marines in an armored tank recovery vehicle helped out.

The Marines tied the statue to their heavy vehicle, but before they tore it down, Marine Cpl. Edward Chin of New York draped the Stars and Stripes over the statue's face. Within a minute, the flag was replaced with an Iraqi flag.

The scene, broadcast all around the world, proved to be something of an embarrassment to U.S. military leaders and policy makers. It's important, they said, that Iraqis and the rest of the Arab world see U.S. forces in Iraq as "liberators" and not "conquerors."

So, another, more forceful, order on showing the flag was issued to U.S. troops, and since then the only place the American flag is displayed in Iraq is at the U.S. Embassy.

Never underestimate the role of public relations in the conduct of modern warfare.

Along those lines, here's another issue connected to the war and how it's portrayed to the public.
Not long ago, I received a correspondence from a reader who complained about the news media's conspicuous lack of coverage of the solemn ceremonies that take place when the bodies of the nation's war dead are returned to the United States.

He suggested this was more evidence of the "liberal media's" distortion of the "real story" of Operation Iraqi Freedom and an insult to the sacrifices of the men and women who paid the ultimate sacrifice for their nation.

In reality, the reason you've seen no images of flag-draped coffins accompanied by uniformed honor guards and prayed over by military chaplains is because the news media isn't permitted to cover the ceremonies.

The large military mortuary at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, to which most of the war dead are flown, has been off-limits to the press when bodies are returned since 1991. Last March the Pentagon extended the ban to all military installations around the world.

The ceremonies are conducted in private, the Pentagon says, out of sensitivity to the grief of the deceased's loved ones.

Others, however, have noted that keeping images of flag-draped coffins out of the public's eye during wartime can have certain advantages for any government engaged in a conflict. Numbers are merely numbers, but such images of death and its finality tend to remind people of the real human cost of war and could turn their feelings against it.

During the Vietnam War, images of America's dead returning to Dover and elsewhere were regular fare on the TV nightly news. It gave rise to the term "Dover test," an informal gauge of the public's tolerance of the mounting body count. Eventually, after 10 years and 58,000 dead, the Vietnam War failed to pass the "Dover test."

But for Iraq, there's no such thing as a "Dover test." For whatever reason you choose to believe, it's absent from our view. Just don't blame the press for that absence.

Lou Sessinger's column is published Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. It's also on the Internet at www.phillyburbs.com. He can be contacted at the Montgomery County office of The Intelligencer, 145 Easton Road, Horsham, PA 19044; phone (215) 957-8172; fax (215) 957-8165; e-mail, lsessinger@phillyburbs.com.

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Thursday, March 18, 2004

"SECRETARY OF THE NAVY AND THE MARINE CORPS"


Move afoot to name secretary of Navy/Marine Corps

By Otto Kreisher
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE

3:24 p.m. March 18, 2004

WASHINGTON – Defying 206 years of history and tradition, a move is gaining momentum to change the title of the secretary of the Navy to recognize his role as manager of two distinct armed services.

A bill to change the title to "secretary of the Navy and the Marine Corps" received ringing endorsements at a House Armed Services Committee hearing Thursday. Both witnesses and committee members said the change would be a symbolic but important shift reflecting the reality that the Marines are much more than the "sea soldiers" they were in the 18th century.

"The whole issue is that the Marine Corps has been designated by past congresses as the fourth armed service," said the bill's author, Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C. "It is not part of the Navy."

"This team has worked together from the Revolution to the current operations in Iraq and Afghanistan," said committee chairman Duncan Hunter, R-El Cajon. "But while both teams have made tremendous contributions to the cause of freedom, only one service is recognized in the title of the secretary."

Hunter, an Army veteran, said in a statement he supported the bill, as did all of the committee members present, except Rep. Susan Davis, D-Calif., whose San Diego district is home to thousands of sailors and Marines. Davis said she looked forward to discussing the issue with her constituents.

Witnesses included retired Gen. Carl Mundy, a past Marine Corps commandant; retired Navy Adm. Stansfield Turner, and Dan Howard, a former Marine and undersecretary of the Navy who briefly served as acting secretary. All strongly supported the proposed change.

"The present title is confusing, represents only two-thirds of the uniformed members of the (Navy) department and is inconsistent with the status of the four armed services in the Department of Defense," Mundy said.

The change "acknowledges the reality of life," Turner said. "The secretary has two components in his department." Turner noted that the commandant does not report to the chief of naval operations, but to the secretary. While recognizing the status of the Marine Corps, he said, "this doesn't take anything away from the Navy."

Howard said the "largely symbolic change is important in its own right. It would allow the secretary to present himself as the equal sponsor of both services."

"This is a change we would make for the warfighters, not the bureaucrats," Howard said.

Jones and all of the witnesses said the change in title would not affect the Navy secretary's authority or any of the legal functions of his department, but would give the Marines the equal status they have earned in more than a century of fighting ashore.

A spokesman said Navy Secretary Gordon England is "honored to be serving both the Navy and the Marine Corps" and would "leave to others" to decide what his title should be.

The name change was endorsed by the Fleet Reserve Association, which represents active and retired Navy personnel, and the Marine Corps Association.

Jones's bill passed the House two years ago but the Senate did not act on it. Committee members believe a key to Senate action would be the position taken by Senate Armed Services Committee chairman John Warner, R-Va. Warner served as an enlisted sailor in World War II, as a Marine officer in the Korean War and as Navy secretary in 1972-74.

Warner's spokesman did not return phone calls Wednesday.




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Wednesday, March 17, 2004

LETTER TO ALL HANDS: "GOING BACK INTO THE BRAWL"


(Via Milinet)

First Marine Division Returns to Iraq

Letter to All Hands,

We are going back in to the brawl. We will be relieving the magnificent
Soldiers fighting under the 82nd Airborne Division, whose hard won
successes in the Sunni Triangle have opened opportunities for us to
exploit. For the last year, the 82nd Airborne has been operating against
the heart of the enemy's resistance. It's appropriate that we relieve
them: When it's time to move a piano, Marines don't pick up the piano
bench - we move the piano. So this is the right place for Marines in this
fight, where we can carry on the legacy of Chesty Puller in the Banana
Wars in the same sort of complex environment that he knew in his early
years. Shoulder to shoulder with our comrades in the Army, Coalition
Forces and maturing Iraqi Security Forces, we are going to destroy the
enemy with precise firepower while diminishing the conditions that create
adversarial relationships between us and the Iraqi people.

This is going to be hard, dangerous work. It is going to require patient,
persistent presence. Using our individual initiative, courage, moral
judgment and battle skills, we will build on the 82nd Airborne's
victories. Our country is counting on us even as our enemies watch and
calculate, hoping that America does not have warriors strong enough to
withstand discomfort and danger. You, my fine young men, are going to
prove the enemy wrong - dead wrong. You will demonstrate the same
uncompromising spirit that has always caused the enemy to fear America's
Marines.

The enemy will try to manipulate you into hating all Iraqis. Do not allow
the enemy that victory. With strong discipline, solid faith, unwavering
alertness, and undiminished chivalry to the innocent, we will carry out
this mission. Remember, I have added, "First, do no harm" to our passwords
of "No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy." Keep your honor clean as we gain
information about the enemy from the Iraqi people. Then, armed with that
information and working in conjunction with fledgling Iraqi Security
Forces, we will move precisely against the enemy elements and crush them
without harming the innocent.

This is our test-our Guadalcanal, our Chosin Reservoir, our Hue City.
Fight with a happy heart and keep faith in your comrades and your unit. We
must be under no illusions about the nature of the enemy and the dangers
that lie ahead. Stay alert, take it all in stride, remain sturdy, and
share your courage with each other and the world. You are going to write
history, my fine young Sailors and Marines, so write it well.

Semper Fidelis,


J.N. Mattis
Major General, U. S. Marines
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Tuesday, March 16, 2004

A CHRISTMAS TRUCE


Ref:
GyG'sMailbag: From Marine Raider Al Careaga, 1st Marine Raider Bn-WW II
Dick Gaines
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Gunny....I don't know if this Christmas Truce has come to your attention before but I think it is worh sharing with your recipients.

As is shown I have sent this to my 3 Sons.
Also a firefighter friend here in my neighborhood who is very interested in everything Marine.

Semper Fi....Raider Gunny WW2.
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THE CHRISTMAS TRUCE
Thursday, March 18, 2004

Hi Guys....I don't remember if I have earlier forwarded this to you....Memory loss of course.
If I have,you can just discard it....

This event actually occured in World War 1 and I think it was chronicled in Erich Maria Remarques novel...All Quiet on the Western Front, which I would wager each of you has read.

I think it is quite a commentary on the futility and
stupidity of war.

In 1943 we had a similiar experience with the Japanese.....On a much smaller scale. However, our exchanges of insults such as "Screw Roosevelt"
which we answered with a resounding "Screw Tojo" each exchange followed with raucous laughter and then bursts of automatic rifle and machine gun fire.

The next exchange would be "Screw Eleanore" We answered
"No...You screw her" and this resulted in the biggest laughter of the night...both from them and us.

All this occuring around 2-3 A.M. Needless to say we didn't get much sleep that night, but then we hardly ever got any sleep as the little nip plane we called "Washing Machine Charlie" would come over around 2-3 every morning and drop his one bomb which did little more than wake us up.

Even though this occurred some 61 years ago this July....I remember it as vividly as if it happened last night.

Guys....I am including a friend who just returned from a visit to D.C. where upon my urging he visited the Marine Corps Museum at the Washington Navy yard. I visited with Skip this morning at the dog park to hear about his visit.

At any rate...Semper Fi.........Dad.
P.S. Of course I cleaned this up....they and we also used then F
word.
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Monday, December 22, 2003
THE CHRISTMAS TRUCE

By Aaron Shepard

Copyright (c) 2001, 2003 by Aaron Shepard. May
be freely copied and shared for any noncommercial
purpose, but please do not omit any text,
including this notice.

ABOUT THE STORY: The Christmas Truce of 1914 is
one of the most remarkable incidents of World War
I and perhaps of all military history. Starting
in some places on Christmas Eve and in others on
Christmas Day, the truce covered as much as two-
thirds of the British-German front, with thousands
of soldiers taking part. Perhaps most remarkably,
it grew out of no single initiative but sprang up
in each place spontaneously and independently.

Nearly everything described here is drawn from
first-hand accounts in letters and diaries of the
time. Britishisms include using "Nowell" instead
of "Noel," and "football" instead of "soccer."
Visit my home page at http://www.aaronshep.com
to learn more about the story, get a copy in Web
format, find a reader's theater script version,
read more stories, or contact the author.

-- Aaron
_________________________________________________

Christmas Day, 1914

My dear sister Janet,

It is 2:00 in the morning and most of our men are
asleep in their dugouts -- yet I could not sleep
myself before writing to you of the wonderful
events of Christmas Eve. In truth, what happened
seems almost like a fairy tale, and if I hadn't
been through it myself, I would scarce believe it.
Just imagine: While you and the family sang carols
before the fire there in London, I did the same
with enemy soldiers here on the battlefields of
France!

As I wrote before, there has been little serious
fighting of late. The first battles of the war
left so many dead that both sides have held back
until replacements could come from home. So we
have mostly stayed in our trenches and waited.

But what a terrible waiting it has been! Knowing
that any moment an artillery shell might land
and explode beside us in the trench, killing or
maiming several men. And in daylight not daring
to lift our heads above ground, for fear of a
sniper's bullet.

And the rain -- it has fallen almost daily. Of
course, it collects right in our trenches, where
we must bail it out with pots and pans. And with
the rain has come mud -- a good foot or more deep.
It splatters and cakes everything, and constantly
sucks at our boots. One new recruit got his feet
stuck in it, and then his hands too when he tried
to get out -- just like in that American story of
the tar baby!

Through all this, we couldn't help feeling curious
about the German soldiers across the way. After
all, they faced the same dangers we did, and
slogged about in the same muck. What's more, their
first trench was only 50 yards from ours. Between
us lay No Man's Land, bordered on both sides by
barbed wire -- yet they were close enough we
sometimes heard their voices.

Of course, we hated them when they killed our
friends. But other times, we joked about them and
almost felt we had something in common. And now it
seems they felt the same.

Just yesterday morning -- Christmas Eve Day --
we had our first good freeze. Cold as we were, we
welcomed it, because at least the mud froze solid.
Everything was tinged white with frost, while a
bright sun shone over all. Perfect Christmas
weather.

During the day, there was little shelling or rifle
fire from either side. And as darkness fell on our
Christmas Eve, the shooting stopped entirely. Our
first complete silence in months! We hoped it
might promise a peaceful holiday, but we didn't
count on it. We'd been told the Germans might
attack and try to catch us off guard.

I went to the dugout to rest, and lying on my cot,
I must have drifted asleep. All at once my friend
John was shaking me awake, saying, "Come and see!
See what the Germans are doing!" I grabbed my
rifle, stumbled out into the trench, and stuck
my head cautiously above the sandbags.

I never hope to see a stranger and more lovely
sight. Clusters of tiny lights were shining all
along the German line, left and right as far as
the eye could see.

"What is it?" I asked in bewilderment, and John
answered, "Christmas trees!"

And so it was. The Germans had placed Christmas
trees in front of their trenches, lit by candle
or lantern like beacons of good will.

And then we heard their voices raised in song.

"Stille nacht, heilige nacht...."

This carol may not yet be familiar to us in
Britain, but John knew it and translated: "Silent
night, holy night." I've never heard one lovelier
-- or more meaningful, in that quiet, clear night,
its dark softened by a first-quarter moon.

When the song finished, the men in our trenches
applauded. Yes, British soldiers applauding
Germans! Then one of our own men started singing,
and we all joined in.

"The first Nowell, the angel did say...."

In truth, we sounded not nearly as good as the
Germans, with their fine harmonies. But they
responded with enthusiastic applause of their
own and then began another.

"O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum...."

Then we replied.

"O come all ye faithful...."

But this time they joined in, singing the same
words in Latin.

"Adeste fideles...."

British and German harmonizing across No Man's
Land! I would have thought nothing could be more
amazing -- but what came next was more so.

"English, come over!" we heard one of them shout.
"You no shoot, we no shoot."

There in the trenches, we looked at each other
in bewilderment. Then one of us shouted jokingly,
"You come over here."

To our astonishment, we saw two figures rise from
the trench, climb over their barbed wire, and
advance unprotected across No Man's Land. One
of them called, "Send officer to talk."

I saw one of our men lift his rifle to the ready,
and no doubt others did the same -- but our
captain called out, "Hold your fire." Then he
climbed out and went to meet the Germans halfway.
We heard them talking, and a few minutes later,
the captain came back with a German cigar in
his mouth!

"We've agreed there will be no shooting before
midnight tomorrow," he announced. "But sentries
are to remain on duty, and the rest of you, stay
alert."

Across the way, we could make out groups of two
or three men starting out of trenches and coming
toward us. Then some of us were climbing out too,
and in minutes more, there we were in No Man's
Land, over a hundred soldiers and officers of each
side, shaking hands with men we'd been trying to
kill just hours earlier!

Before long a bonfire was built, and around it we
mingled -- British khaki and German grey. I must
say, the Germans were the better dressed, with
fresh uniforms for the holiday.

Only a couple of our men knew German, but more of
the Germans knew English. I asked one of them why
that was.

"Because many have worked in England!" he said.
"Before all this, I was a waiter at the Hotel
Cecil. Perhaps I waited on your table!"

"Perhaps you did!" I said, laughing.

He told me he had a girlfriend in London and that
the war had interrupted their plans for marriage.
I told him, "Don't worry. We'll have you beat by
Easter, then you can come back and marry the
girl."

He laughed at that. Then he asked if I'd send her
a postcard he'd give me later, and I promised I
would.

Another German had been a porter at Victoria
Station. He showed me a picture of his family back
in Munich. His eldest sister was so lovely, I said
I should like to meet her someday. He beamed and
said he would like that very much and gave me his
family's address.

Even those who could not converse could still
exchange gifts -- our cigarettes for their cigars,
our tea for their coffee, our corned beef for
their sausage. Badges and buttons from uniforms
changed owners, and one of our lads walked off
with the infamous spiked helmet! I myself traded
a jackknife for a leather equipment belt -- a fine
souvenir to show when I get home.

Newspapers too changed hands, and the Germans
howled with laughter at ours. They assured us that
France was finished and Russia nearly beaten too.
We told them that was nonsense, and one of them
said, "Well, you believe your newspapers and we'll
believe ours."

Clearly they are lied to -- yet after meeting
these men, I wonder how truthful our own
newspapers have been. These are not the "savage
barbarians" we've read so much about. They are
men with homes and families, hopes and fears,
principles and, yes, love of country. In other
words, men like ourselves. Why are we led to
believe otherwise?

As it grew late, a few more songs were traded
around the fire, and then all joined in for --
I am not lying to you -- "Auld Lang Syne." Then
we parted with promises to meet again tomorrow,
and even some talk of a football match.

I was just starting back to the trenches when an
older German clutched my arm. "My God," he said,
"why cannot we have peace and all go home?"

I told him gently, "That you must ask your
emperor."

He looked at me then, searchingly. "Perhaps, my
friend. But also we must ask our hearts."

And so, dear sister, tell me, has there ever been
such a Christmas Eve in all history? And what does
it all mean, this impossible befriending of
enemies?

For the fighting here, of course, it means
regrettably little. Decent fellows those soldiers
may be, but they follow orders and we do the same.
Besides, we are here to stop their army and send
it home, and never could we shirk that duty.

Still, one cannot help imagine what would happen
if the spirit shown here were caught by the
nations of the world. Of course, disputes must
always arise. But what if our leaders were to
offer well wishes in place of warnings? Songs in
place of slurs? Presents in place of reprisals?
Would not all war end at once?

All nations say they want peace. Yet on this
Christmas morning, I wonder if we want it quite
enough.

Your loving brother,
Tom

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Note:
3/22/04
The following note is from my friend, George Clark, Marine, historian, author, publisher and bookseller, etc.
Thank you, George
DickG
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Dick
you might want to mention to anyone with
interest, that in 1914, post-action
mentioned, the British demanded that their
officers stop any Christmas good
neighborlyness in the future. They were concerned
that if the troops and the
enemy were friendly the continued killing might
end. That would have been a
shame.
German officers participated in the gift
exchange. They, both sides, even
played some soccer during the interval.
I'm not sure that the Christmas interchange
happened between the Frech and
Germans.
Just thot someone might be interested.
George Clark
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1952-72
Semper Fidelis
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Monday, March 15, 2004

EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT: FIRST FLAG ON SURIBACHI, BY RAYMOND JACOBS


Thought you would like to see this...
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph L. Richard
To: RAYMOND JACOBS
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:52 PM
Subject: WWII Stories -- Web Site

Hello Mr. Jacobs,

My day off is today, and I managed to get a number of small projects
cleared off of my desk so that I can devote some time to reading and
building a page of your essay that you sent to me last week.

I find the material fascinating! to say the least.

I cannot understand as to how the historians did not give you proper
credit for your actions during the 1st Flag Raising on Iwo Jima.

Hopefully, through you efforts and others working on your behalf, you
will receive the credit due you, Sir...especially with the upcoming 60th
Anniversary of the flag raising atop Mt. Suribachi in February of next
year.

If interested, you can watch as I work on your page!

I am currently in the process of scanning the images from your essay
into my computer system. I run an older (Apple) Mac system and I work
alone on my web pages...which explains why it sometimes takes so long
for a project to be completed. My full time job keeps me hopping and I
work on my days off as well as during much of my spare time.

If you check out the following link you will see the page I am setting
up for you IN PROGRESS.

http://carol_fus.tripod.com/marines_hero_ray_jacobs.html

All of the text is pretty much in place.

The images are being scanned in and are being uploaded as I work on the
project. This portion of the project will take a bit of time and may not
be completed for a couple of days or so. It takes a bit of effort and
time to scan images, size, set the proper image size for the web page
and upload the images to my server.

Additionally, the images are LARGE and will take a fairly long time to
load up especially if the viewer is using a dial-up server. I use a
cable internet server and this cuts my upload/download time measureably.

Anyway, as you look at the page, don't get alarmed if you do not see all
of the images in place as of yet. As I work with each image, I send them
to my server and they will then appear in proper locations throughout
the text of the essay.

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Thursday, March 11, 2004

MY LIFE AS A STEAM SHOVEL...AS TOLD TO PVT. ROBERTS


AHOY MARINES!
MY LIFE AS A STEAM SHOVEL As Told To Pvt Roberts...

I was born in 1938 in the city of Yawata, Japan. My parts were forged at the Imperial Iron and Steel Works located there. The plans for my construction came from a steam shovel that was bought after the Panama Canal was finished. I was the latest thing in high tech in those years.

In 1942 I was shipped by barge to the Island of Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands In the South Pacific. There the Imperial Japanese Navy was ordered to build an airfield with my help. I was just barely rigged up when an exploding force of United States Marines came swarming over the airfield I was working on and they commandeered me to do their work, as they had no large, great Steam Shovels like me.

I was then assigned to the 1st Marine Aviation Engineer Battalion . They checked me all out and put me to work right off. These Marines called the airfield I was working on Henderson Field. I believe “Henderson” was a Marine Aviator killed at the battle of Midway Island in the central Pacific.

All hell broke loose a few nights latter as the Japanese Navy and air force started to shell and bomb the airfield.

This lasted on and off for several months as the Japanese wanted the Island back real bad. As Guadalcanal was the vital key to their shipping in the South Pacific. I musta been forged under a lucky star as all those shells and bombs missed me. After this Historic Airfield was completed with my help. The Marines went on to win their campaign in the Solomon Islands.

Late in 1942 the Sea Bees were formed to do the Navy’s construction work, The 1st Marine Aviation Engineer Battalion was then renamed the “1st Separate Engineer Battalion. This Engineer Battalion was assigned to be the Engineers for the 3rd Amphibious Corps. This Corps was made up of the 1st 2nd and 6th Marine Divisions. When the Marines fought for and took the Island of Tinian, in the Mariana’s group, I was partly dismantled and put on the deck of a large Navy Transport and shipped along with the 1st Separate Engineer Battalion to the Mariana’s.

They were to help me build the largest airfield in the world at that time .I only needed a few good men so it didn’t take many Marines. I was the key that cemented all this great work together. I was sure glad to be back with this great outfit of Marines.

Of course the Sea Bees got all the credit there as they did on Henderson Field, for all this construction. But the Marines did get even somewhat by eating all or most of their food. Sea Bees always had great food and they always welcomed Marines. Marines, whenever they got a chance stood in their mess lines. The Sea Bees would always announce, “Navy personnel only” All Army troops must leave the area. Maybe the Army Air Force there couldn’t fix food so great. I have never heard anyone bragging about Army food.

I would of liked to have been in this chow line with the Marines, but would of looked out of place. Maybe I was suited better for Army Air Force food. It mixed better with my diesel fuel. The army probably couldn’t taste the difference.

On arrival at Tinian I was placed in a coral quarry to shovel out material for the runways for those beautiful B-29s.

Our Marine dump truck drivers were from “C” or Charlie Co. Company. The Island Command gave them the “Red Flag” so they had priority of all the roads on Tinian and over all other trucks. Army and Sea Bees, had to yield to them. The Army really wanted this Airfield built in a hurry.

Eventually this was a weird thing for China, maybe, for as Marines in general have a great attitude , Charlie Company drivers had even a bigger one. The Marines that went there after the war. Started driving in Peking and would only drive on the right side. The Chinese drove, what few cars and trucks they had, on the left [wrong] side of the road. The Chinese used charcoal burning trucks and a lot of mule drawn, two wheel carts. When trucks collided with a Marine truck, there was burning charcoal thrown everywhere. Sooooooo the Chinese government on New Years day ’45 –’46 changed all this around to save what was left of the Chinese trucks and had them drive on the right side. The Chinese mules had a hard time switching over to the right side. You know how mules can be. To this day, with the exception of Hong Kong, China drives on the right side. Thanks to the boys in Charley Company, 1st separate Engineer Battalion.

In late 1944 the B-29s bombed and destroyed the Imperial Iron & Steel Works in Yawata, Japan. Soooooooo what comes around goes around and my birthplace was destroyed by the very B-29s I build the runways for. A pilot from Continental Airlines flew over Tinian on his rout from Guam to Hong Kong not to long ago and reported to one of the famous old members of this Battalion that he saw an old wreck of a steam shovel rusting away in a coral quarry. Sure wish I could have gone on to Okinawa and China with this Engineer Battalion . Maybe I would have become a great and famous monument at the Marine Corps Base In San Diego like when they raised the flag at Suribachi. I would be proud to have my bucket painted with Stars and Stripes.

Semper Fi....
from your favorite rusty old steam shovel.
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Thank you, Richard!
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Dick Gaines
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Wednesday, March 10, 2004

MYTHS OF MAKIN...BY KENNETH L. MCCULLOUGH


Carlson's Raiders, Makin Island Raid, Guadalcanal-The Long Patrol...

The following came to me by way of an e-mail from my friend Sgt Kenneth L. McCullough. "Mac" was a member of Baker Company, 2d Raiders, Carlson's Raiders (2d Marine Raider Battalion) and was with Carlson on the Makin Island Raid, and also later on Carlson's equally famous "The Long Patrol"--30 days behind enemy lines on Guadalcanal in November-December 1942.

I have been very fortunate while on the Internet these last seven years or so, as I have come into contact with Marines like Mac, members of the Carlson family, and other Marine raiders, both Carlson's, Edson's, and others. For me it has been a very high honor, and I value highly the interaction and information provided.
Mac can be reached via e-mail at radermac2b@cox.net
Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines
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GUNNY
THIS IS A LITTLE SOMETHING I PUT TOGETHER ABOUT THE MAKIN RAID. WE HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF PUBLICITY IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO. SOME GOOD SOME BAD. I JUST HATE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THE WRONG IDEA ABOUT COL. CARLSON.

WITH THE AMOUNT OF MARINE STUFF YOU GET I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO READ THIS.
GUNG HO
MAC

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MYTHS OF MAKIN

THERE HAS BEEN MANY ARTICLES WRITTEN ABOUT CARLSON'S RAID ON MAKIN.
SOME OF THEM TRUE BUT ALSO A LOT OF THEM (MYTHS) GOOD READING UNLESS YOU KNOW THE TRUTH.

#1

THE RIFLE SHOT BY MITCHELL JUST AS WE LANDED. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT BUT IT HAPPENED. WHAT DID NOT HAPPEN WAS ALL HELL DID NOT BREAK LOOSE. IT WAS ABOUT TWENTY MINUTES BEFORE THE FIGHTING STARTED..

#2

CARLSON'S PANIC. I WAS WITH CARLSON MOST OF THE TWO DAY'S. HE ACTED LIKE A MAN ON A MISSION. BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN GROCERY SHOPPING, OR A DAY IN TRANING.HE WAS ABOUT THE MOST CALM GUY ON THE ISLAND.

#3

THE SURRENDER NOTE.: I HEARD ABOUT THE NOTE ABOUT FIFTY YEARS AFTER THE RAID.THERE WAS NO WAY IN HELL CARLSON WOULD HAVE SURRENDERED WITH THE PRESIDENT'S SON WITH US. CARLSON WOULD HAVE DIED DEFENDING US.

THE TWO MEN WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO DELIVERED THE NOTE.THE STORY GOES AS THEY LEFT THE TENT WHERE THEY GAVE THE JAP THE NOTE. THEY SAW A JAP RUNNING. ONE OF THEM GRABBED A JAP PISTOL AND IT WOULD NOT FIRE. SO HE GRABED A RIFLE AND SHOT THE JAP.(OUR TWO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WITHOUT WEAPONS,THERE JUST HAPPENED TO BE THESE WEAPONS LAYING AROUND) HOW FAR HAD THE JAP RUN WHILE ALL OF THIS GUN GRABBING WAS GOING ON?? IT WAS AT LEAST TWELVE OCLOCK AT NITE AND THERE WERE NO LIGHTS ON. MAKES YOU WONDER.

ALSO IT WAS TOLD THAT THE COLONEL FORGOT THE MEN THAT WAS GUARDING OUR WITHDRAWL. WE DID NOT GET OFF THE ISLAND BUT IF WE HAD WOULD THE MEN JUST SET UP CAMP ON THE ISLAND. THEIR BOATS WERE THERE I BELIEVE ONE OF THEM WOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT WAS TIME TO GO. UNLESS THEY ALL WANTED SOME ONE TO COME BACK TO THE ISLAND AND TELL THEM IT WAS TIME TO LEAVE??

#4

COMMUNICATING WITH THE SUBS. MOST STORIES IS THAT WE CONTACTED THE SUBS BY RADIO BUT WE HAD NO WORKING RADIOS THAT SECOND DAY THE FOUR RADIOMEN I HAD WERE ALL KILLED THE FIRST DAY, AND THE RADIOS WERE NOT REILABLE. THE SECOND DAY THE SUBS HAD TO DIVE THAT MORNING. SO IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THE SUBS SURFACED I USED A FLASHLITE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.

#5

MEN LEFT BEHIND

EARLY ON THE SECOND DAY A BOAT FROM THE SUB CAME INTO THE OUTER EDGE OF THE BREAKERS AND A MARINE SWAM IN AND TOLD THE COLONEL THAT THE SUB COMMANDER SAID HE WOULD BE THERE UNTIL WE ALL GOT OFF. THEN THE MARINE SWAM BACK TO THE RUBBER BOAT, ABOUT THAT TIME JAP PLANES CAME OVER. THE SUBS DIVED AND THE RUBBER BOAT WAS STRAFFED. WE WATCHED FOR THE MARINES IN THE BOAT BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE EVER SAW ANY OF THEM. EARLY THAT DAY THE COLONEL TOLD THE BOYS THAT IF THEY COULD GET A CREW TOGETTHER AND THOUGHT THEY COULD GET TO THE SUBS THAT GO AHEAD AND TRY.THIS WAS BEFORE THE PLANES CAME OVER.(ONE STORY IS THAT THE NIGHT BEFORE THE COLONEL SAID HE WAS GOING TO SURRENDER AND IT WAS EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF WHICH IS A LOT OF BULL) AFTER THE SUBS DIVED WE ALL GATHERED AND THE COLONEL TOLD EVERYONE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SUBS TO SURFACE AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE LATE IN THE AFTER NOON.

THEN HE SENT SOME PATROLS OUT TO SEE WHAT THE SITUATION WAS. THE COLONEL WENT OUT WHERE THE DEAD MARINES I DON'T KNOW JUST WHAT HE DID HE TOLD ME TO KEEP WATCH FOR THE SUBS. BY ABOUT ELEVEN OCLOCK EVERY ONE WAS BACK WHERE WE SPENT THE NITE. THE COLONEL TOLD US THAT WHEN WE CONTACTED THE SUB WE WOULD ASK THEM TO COME AROUND TO THE LAGOON SIDE OF THE ISLAND.

THE COLONEL CONTACTED THE NATIVES AND MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO BURY OUR DEAD. AROUND FIVE THE SUB SURFACED AND I CONTACTED THEM AND ASK THEM TO PICK US UP OFF THE POINT ON THE LAGOON SIDE. THEN WE DRAGGED FOUR RUBBER BOATS ACROSS THE ISLAND. THERE WE FOUND A NATIVE OUTRIGGER, WE LASHED THREE BOATS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE OUTRIGGER AND ONE ON THE LEFT, ABOUT SEVEN WE SHOVED OFF. ONE MOTOR AND THE REST PADDLES.

IT WAS SLOW. LOOKING AT THE SHORE WE WERE BARELY MOVING, THE MEN IN THE FAR RIGHT BOAT WANTED TO CUT LOOSE AND GO ON. THE COLONEL TOLD THEM IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE ALL STAYED TOGATHER. SO AFTER ABOUT THIRTY MINUTES WE WERE STILL BARELY MOVING. THE MEN ASKED THE COLONEL AGAIN TO CUT LOOSE AND HE GAVE PERMISSION. THEY REALLY MOVED OUT IN A HURRY AND, THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE SAW THEM.

WE FINALY GOT TO THE SUB THE MEN WERE NOT ON THE SUB. WE JUST SUPPOSED THEY HAD BOARDED THE OTHER SUB. WE SET SAIL AND DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE NOT WITH US UNTIL WE GOT BACK TO HONOLULU.AND TO ME THOSE ARE THE BOYS THAT WERE CAPTURED AND TAKEN TO KWAJALEIN

BRIAN THIS IS THE WAY I SAW THE LAST DAY OF THE RAID, I WILL BE GLAD TO DISCUSS IT WITH ANYONE, AND IF I AM WRONG TELL ME SO AND PROVE IT.

I GOT THE STUFF YOU SENT AND, A LOT OF I HAVE NEVER SEEN.IT LOOKS GOOD TO ME.

GUNG HO

MAC.

PS MY COMPUTER DON'T SPELL SO GOOD SO JUST OVERLOOK IT.MAC
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Saturday, March 06, 2004

BLOOD STRIPE, CHAPULTAPEC, USMC, ETC.


Submitted by: MCAS Miramar
Story Identification Number: 20043420327
Story by Cpl. Paul W. Leicht



MARINE CORPS AIR STATION MIRAMAR, Calif.(March 5, 2004) -- Red is a color often characterized by violence and bloodshed in real life as well as in art and literature. It often suggests the meaning of courage and sacrifice.

Traditionally, officers and noncommissioned officers of the Marine Corps wear a scarlet red stripe on their dress blue trousers to commemorate the courage and tenacious fighting of the men who battled before Chapultapec in the Mexican War.

In the Corps, this stripe is more commonly known as the “Blood Stripe.”

Ask any good Marine and he or she will tell you this is true.

But how many realize that the battle at Chapultepec took place during one of the least bloody conflicts in the annals of U.S. Marine Corps history?

Interestingly, more Marines were killed or wounded during the “Mayaguez Incident” battle with Khmer Rouge forces at Koh Tang Island, Cambodia, on May 14, 1975, than during the entire Mexican War. How many active duty Marines today remember the Marines of 2nd Battalion, 9th Marines, and the human cost of the Koh Tang helicopter assault that closed America’s longest war in Southeast Asia?

Until the Mexican War when the Marines stormed the steps of Chapultepec more Marines were killed or wounded during another conflict in American history often forgotten, the War of 1812.

The death of any Marine who willingly sacrificed his or her life for our nation deserves remembrance and the deepest respect. Yet the relative “bloodless” cost for Marines who stormed the stone course of glory atop Chapultepec in Mexico almost 160 years ago, now seems to pale in comparison next to the loss of Marines in action in more modern, industrial times.

Traditions bring meaning to our lives and, for the Marine Corps, a greater sense of purpose and pride among its servicemembers and leaders.

President Ronald Reagan recognized this pride after the Oct. 23, 1983, bombing of the Marine Barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, when he is reputed to have said, “Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they’ve made a difference. The Marines don’t have that problem.”

Ever mindful of past sacrifices, the Marines are proud of their contributions to their country on the battlefield.

That legacy of duty defines what it means to serve and is recognized today as it was generations ago. So long as historians, writers, photographers, artists and anyone with a talent for a bar room story continues to extol the actions of Marines for the benefit of future generations, the tradition will remain timeless.

But cultural traditions and myths can sometimes evolve over time like any good human story. Historical personalities, events and observations are often viewed and interpreted through the looking glass of contemporary times, reflecting a different meaning from previous or to future generations.

In the realm of military history, more contemporary battles and conflicts often eclipse those previously and change the way people view war entirely, especially when the cost in blood is extraordinarily high.
For example, the carnage of World War I that virtually annihilated an entire generation of British masculine youth shocked a dying empire. In comparision, the vast number of American casualties during the battles of the Civil War, World War II and Vietnam was equally stunning to American society and the national psyche.

World War II in particular - the war of our grandparents - is now slowly fading into distant history.

The number of sacrifices by fellow Marines in that monumental and global conflict to this day leaves an indelible impression on Marines past and present.

Perhaps this mark is so strong that it will influence a turn toward redefining the traditional meaning behind our own myth and meaning behind the coveted “blood stripe.”
For Marines putting on the scarlet stripe for the first time, whatever the specific historical reference, remembering the Corps’ blood sacrifice while fulfilling a legacy of leadership spanning generations can feel like an overwhelming honor.
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Blood Stripes!
Chapultapec Or Uniform Regulations?
From the book, The Marines, by Edwin Howard Simmons, J. Robert Moskin, Marine Corps Heritage Foundation, 1998

"...For generations drill instructors have solemnly told recruits that the scarlet stripe on the blue trousers of Marine officers and noncommissioned officers are "blood stripes" in honor of Marines killed in storming of Chapultapec in Mexico City in 1847.

Interesting but not true.

The wearing of stripes on the trousers began in 1834, following the Army's practice of having trouser stripes the color of the facings. Col. Henderson prescribed buff-white stripes for officers and sergeants. When in 1839 the uniform changed back to dark blue coats faced red, officer trouser stripes became dark blue edged in red. Ten years later officer stripes changed to red and in 1859 the uniform regulations prescribed a scarlet welt inserted into the outer seam for officers, and a scarlet cord for staff noncommissioned officers and musicians.

After more variations were tried, finally, in 1904 the simple and striking all-scarlet stripe was adopted..."
To GyG's Source Webpage...
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/blood.html

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1091906/posts?page=1

Strange that these myths can go on and on unchecked--as in the example above-- despite that this, and other myths, have been long corrected by (Gen. Simmons) none less than the Head of History and Museums, USMC.

Well, as one Marine colonel once wrote me regarding this, "Gunny, I don't give a damn about your facts, tradition is all that counts" (paraphrased). And a very telling statement that is...
Dick Gaines

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Wednesday, March 03, 2004

CHURCHILL: "DO YOU USE YOUR RIFLE..."




Payson man honored for World War II service
Date: Wednesday, March 03 @ 00:00:30
Topic Our Towns

Charles Gate of Payson and two of his brothers enlisted in the Marines in Wyoming on Sept. 13, 1940.

"The people in the neighborhood laughed because it was Friday the 13th," said Gate's granddaughter, Virginia Burgess.

While he was stationed in Iceland for several months before America joined the war, he received a surprise visit from Winston Churchill.

"I was in a long line of men and (Churchill) came up to me and asked, 'Do you use your rifle very much?' " Gate said. "I answered, 'Yes, Yes I do.' "

He later spent 32 months fighting in the South Pacific, lost a brother to friendly fire and met his bride of nearly 60 years at that same brother's funeral in Heber City.

Tuesday, 90-year-old Gate was honored by the Marine Corps and the Marine Corps League, a national society of former marines, with a certificate of appreciation and a book of memorabilia from his years of military service.

Gate was surprised at his Payson home by two Marine staff sergeants in their dress uniforms, along with Gate's wife, brother, children, grandchildren and great grandchildren.

The book of memorabilia included newspaper articles about areas of Gate's military service, photos and postcards that have been kept in Marine Corps League archives since the war.

The certificate, recently issued by the Marine Corps, thanked Gate for his faithful and dedicated service to the Marine Corps and a grateful nation, Burgess said.

Gate's brother, Alan, worked with the Marine Corps League to get Charles and their older brother, Jack, the recognition he thinks they deserve. Jack was honored at a similar event in his home in Wyoming. Alan said both brothers are over 90 now and deserve to be thanked before it is too late.

Alan said the Gate family is very proud of Chuck and Jack and shows this pride by learning and reciting war stories.

"I was only 11-years-old when my three brothers enlisted," Alan Gate said. "Chuck had some very active combat in World War II, and I knew about all of that while it was happening."

The rest of the family learns about and remembers "Grandpa's" war experiences through "Grandma."

"He doesn't talk too much about it," Charles' wife Doris said. "But I remember all the stories."

Burgess said her grandfather was once stranded on Russell Island in the South Pacific with his men while surrounded by the enemy.

The military dropped Gate and 180 men off on the island with their rifles, backpacks and one day's food rations. After 30 days of eating coconut and wild limes and living in fox holes to escape Japanese overhead fire, Charles and many of the men were rescued by an American ship.

"Thirty days!" Doris said. "I think that is why his knees went out when he got older."

Jill Fellow can be
reached at 344-2624 or jfellow@heraldextra.com

This story appeared in The Daily Herald on page D3.
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